Behind the Shadows w/ Harvey Guillen
Behind the Shadows w/ Harvey Guillen

Season 4, Episode · 3 months ago

The Wedding w/ Parisa Fakhri

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Welcome to another episode of Behind the Shadows. I'm your host Harvey Guillen, AKA Guillermo de la Cruz. The show where we talk all things shadows with cast, crew, and celebrity guests. Today's guest is the one, the only, beautiful Parisa Fakhri. That's right. Nandor's wife is here. We'll talk late-night outings with the cast of Shadows, and Parisa and I give acting tips 101 for an up-and-coming actor. Don't miss it on today's Behind the Shadows.

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Straw hot media. Welcome to another episode of behind the shadows. I'm your host, Harvey Giett, A K get mo La Cruz, the show where we talk all things shadows with CASS crew and celebrity guests. Today's guest is the one, the only, beautiful Parissa Fakri. That's right, NAN door's wife is here. We'll talk late night outings with the cast of shadows and Barissa, and I give acting tips, one or one for an up and coming actor. Don't Miss It on today's behind the shadows breathing it's sowhelming hat, bizarre head. So tell me you why would anyone want to be alive? Deaf my hair reputation before she arrives, but trust me, we have way more fun in the line we have. I am so excited for today's guest. I have the one, the only, Barissa Faki. Welcome to the show. Thanks for having me now. This week's episode was the wedding, which has been leading up to this big climactic moment. It's like our mid season, you know. Um, big moment like this is like a big episode. Yeah, and I was well actually, before joining the cast, were you found of the show? Were you wear the show? Yes, I had seen the movie and I had seen the first two two seasons. I hadn't seen the third season yet. How is that like? How was the audition process like when you heard about it? How did the whole thing come to be? I literally told my manager I'M gonna cry if I get it, I'm gonna cry if I don't. So I was like, I don't know, it was crazy. Um, yeah, it was very, very, very, very, very, very, very very excited. Was it like one time to call back? Was it like a tape cent? Like? How was that? It was just a tape sent and, Um, I'll say it's funny because I had also this is something for me and you lad, but just a tape cent and then like a week past and it was like, you know, and then it came back forth and then all of a sudden it was like hey, they're getting approval from the network for you, and I was like oh good, like it couldn't it couldn't go fast enough, you know, like hours. was just like I'm gonna like a cat on a singaling or something. You know, don't you hate that? As an actor sometimes that waiting game of like you're sitting you're waiting, you know you're almost there. You have to threshold. There's nothing more excruciating for an actor than right. Am I right? Like, do you have any stories like? Do you have any stories like that? I was on hold for a month and a half pinned for this for those for seven years ago and Um, I didn't get it. But but that month and a half was cruise. It's so like intense. But they like cold every couple of weeks, just making sure she's still available, and that was even more torturous because you're like I got this right, like I got this, and then the one I didn't got this. I was on hold one time for my first series regular, Um, for about three months on hold for this. Yeah, it was intense, like it was like a huge the audition process was over the late summer into the fall. It was intense and I was just remember it was the most excruciating part of being actor and at one point I was like I don't know if I can do this all the time. I don't know if I can just be waiting and waiting and waiting. It's the hardest part. It's the hardest part. It's the sit around and waiting that's the hardest part Um and that's why it's good to like...

...distract yourself with other things and other projects or family and friends and all that, because it can I can see why people leave the business. You know, I I can honestly. I had a friend who was so talented in high school, like, you know, amazing actor, etcetera, etcetera. They went to one audition, they didn't get a call back and they were heartbroken and they quit. They went to audition, one audition and I think because they don't you know what it is, if they don't teach that in school, because in school, you know, depending where you go, you're always given a part. You know what I mean? Like you're always like you you're give me a treat, you give me a treat. Everyone gets a trophy, and in the real world there's no root, no one, not everyone gets a trophy, and so it's hard when people say you don't want me, and it's like yeah, no, not this time. Good job, but not this time. I don't understand. You don't want me and they look at me. Look at I'm talking about. Look at me, don't you? I auditioned with this face. I hope you know that. How do you say? I hope you know how to shoot with this face all the time. Oh, it's so natural. I understand why you would do that. Thank you. It's organic chicken fat and My Lips. I've had that face that I do since I was a kid and my friends every time I do it, they're like, can you please to stop? I don't want to say that. Oh my God, is that the face? Did you just do that? No, you won't do it. That's not like you know, like I was just gonna say, when you try to do the face before that, I was like, you're so beautiful that it just didn't come across, and you're so I thank you. You're kind, but but it took a lot of energy. I saw there was a lot of muscles going into that work, because it's not natural. It is not natural for you to fall into an ugly face, and so that I can say the same for you. Oh, no, I well, thank you, adorable. Oh you're sweet. Thank you. Drop my skin routine. Um, but we're gonna get sponsored by some kind of like face cream or whatnot. Perfect, perfect, but it's Um. But it's true. Like the whole thing, you know, with auditioning and actors and all that. It's it's crazy, but I'm so glad that you joined the cast because Marwa has become such, you know, part of our family and it's just uh, and it's so funny because the way you play her is so different. I mean this is create to you as an actress that you're so good that like it's so different. It's like it's totally different, like the mannerisms and the way the voice and and how would you how would you describe how you get into character for Marva? Well, I'll just give you one little funny thing. First. When I first got the audition sides, I read them once and I got my phone and I turned the camera on me and I went it changed my mind and that's just it's like I knew what it was going to be and I think she, I guess at this point people, you know, know that she's kind of changing here. So I think there's just kind of this like shell right thing that's happening. So I just tap into it with it's really that line. It's funny. It always got me there when I needed to get you know, just to be kind of like uh lobotomized. I guess you know, isn't that crazy? Like it's justly takes that one line that lets you fall into place as an actor. I think I remember yet amost like in the audition and his line was just like very cool master and just the submissiveness of that and just very like supportive of your capture, basically, you know what I mean. And Stockholm Syndrome and how to and when that line just came out, I remember just being...

...like, Oh, this is him, this is totally him. You know, he can still see the silver lining in a situation that's very terrible. Yes, for sure, for sure. I mean, yeah, deals with a lot, a lot, and this season, I must say, I really love the moment that you know, most of the fans were, you know, compative about, like well, no, Nan door' is supposed to end up with here, and I was like don't you see that, like, if you really truly love someone, you want them to be happy, and Dietimo really shows that with Nandor in this moment. They had the real sweet moment in the in the episode where they are, you know, getting him ready. He's nervous and he's making the right choice and and there's never any negative energy shown between guermo and Marwa, if anything, that's encouraging. When he walks you. Do you remember that? Yes, and when we have our little moment at the table. Yes, yes, yes, Oh my God, I say great things to shoot refresh everyone's memory. Tell everyone about that moment and I'll tell them about the other one. So it's Um when when you're sitting there listening to the band and I come over and I just wanted to tell you how much I love you and how much I appreciate you, and and then I tried to make you good things you don't want to like. Let's go a bit. It's so sweet. It's such a sweet moment with Marwan and the moment that, you know, when he whispers in her when he's helping her with her dress up to, you know, the actual Um pedestal, I guess you will for the wedding. What is that platform called? The stage, stage, the altar, but yeah, the altar, kind of altar. Yeah, the altar. And so I'm helping her up because your gorgeous gown and I'm carrying like the back of it. And and as you come up and I make sure you get up and I just whispering and I can't believe they actually got I don't think it was in the script. I think it was out of the last minute. But I lean over, you know, like look beautiful, you know, just like a reminder of like remember that. It's so much a sweet moment. I'm really glad that they kept that in because it really does show that you could love people and want the best for them. It doesn't necessarily that it ends up in a physical, you know, connection or um or whatnot. And and I love that and I love that that we showed that this season. Now, does he have a, you know, some kind of deeper feeling for Nandor I don't know, you know, only time would tell, because apparently, after you know, the episode, it took him this long to find out or want the perfect wife and at the end he was forcing himself to build a perfect wife with Marwa. You know, and I like that, Marwa starts getting, you know, kind of a kind of a backbone and just like, you know what I mean, because it's just like a controlled vessel. But it's also like, wait a minute, and she starts spending with the girls night out. You know. Yes, yes, that was hilarious. What were you guys watching. It was it was Mama, Mama, and that was like the second day of shooting and you know, it's like I don't know anybody, and I'm like, Oh, you get to just be a complete Jack at the first time here. Amazing. Yes, that's a funny one. We have way more funny. How is it? How is it working with Kristen and Natasha? Oh my gosh, it was like it was amazing, but also, I'll say this, with all of you mother truckers, I was like, okay, not laugh. How am I gonna keep a straight face? And I'm like I'm gonna be such the amateur. And then I remember reading an article about the show on the flight out for my first flight out there, and it says that you guys all cracked up, but I was like hey, you know what it's like. They do it too, but you know, being a Newbie, you're like, I don't want to ruin mistake. That's so funny because he...

...just had a nupe on the show who plays the gene on the show, and he was saying the same thing that people get into a set because you're so used to program as an actor, when you get to the set, you you like scope out the situation, like what's the vibe on this set? Like there's no silly, you know silliness, there's no funny business. There's just go do your lines and get out, or is it like we have fun or like? So it makes sense that actors will scope out, you know, the environment because you are coming into a family or a train already in motion and that could have gone south. You know, if you get into the situation and we're like, we don't joke around. You know who take this very we're very serious on this show. Hill, right, hi, Dick Jokes and fun jokes in this show. So it's crazy to think that, but you're right. It's I do all the time. You get to a set and you're like, Oh, okay, I know not to you know, like Piss that person off or whatnot, and it's crazy. Like the wedding episode is so beautiful and just like it takes place obviously at the club and everyone's there and and and it really just showed emotions from all all the characters and everyone everyone's going through and the butterflies that you know you have for Marwa going into this, even though she's been with Nandoor before. It's like the Chosen One, you know, it's like the chosen one out of all the wives, and also the uncertainty that Nander has in this episode, and also the expiration date coming approaching Guillermo, because of he promised to stay as long as he could help find him a wife, and expiration is here, and so now it's like case. Remember, they still did him dirty and he's didn't he hasn't forgotten. He's not forgotten. I'm curious to see what happens later with later this season. You'll find out. But speaking of dating and weddings and whatnot, have you ever had a horror like date? Are you been lucky enough to be like now? They've all been great, they've been pretty I mean, okay, let me I don't. I meant dated a lot. I've had either. I was in a relationship and you meet somebody and it goes zero to a hundred and like a week and then you're together for five years. Um. So I haven't really had many dates. Um, but I've heard some really good ones from my friends. Wait, can you share without sharing names? Of course, yes. Okay, so my friend was dating this guy and they went out a few times and then he ater like, I think it's like the fourth day or something. He was like, do you want to go back to my house and, you know, we can have a drink and, you know, watch a movie or something like that, and she was like sure, now to the apartment and his bed is in the living room and he has three other roommates. What wait, his bedroom was the living room and she was I go, girl, did you run? She goes, I said so, she said, I left something in my car. I have to go get it, and that's never oh my God, that's I mean, at that point I get it. You know, times are hard, you gotta like, you know, the economy, inflation, people gotta bunk up and have roommates and whatnot. But at that point, don't you think that if you're going on a date, you kind of I don't know if you if you're if you're the one who got the living room, maybe that's the one night that you're like, I'm on a date and if I am going to go and invite this person over, maybe, like, I don't know, because then that is that's easy to be like over I'd be like no, let's wait till the second day and then if that means we're gonna, you...

...know, Netflix and chill. We can rent a hotel or something, you know, something right like that sounds roommates. Let's go to your place. Just didn't even phase him that his bed was in the middle of the living room. That blows my mind. Like well, like, okay, so did you give any dating advice? What's what's someone asked for dating advice. It's always funny because I feel like I have all the answers to get to someone else, but not myself, and so I could if someone I'm like you should do this. No, no, no, you're too good for them, and then when it comes to me, I'm like what do I do? Thank you. Well, I think it's like that. I'd be a listame to like all of my like we all give each other advice and stuff like that, but definitely you can see others so much more, with so much more clarity than you can see yourself. And I feel like it's been years and years and years. I have learned from everybody that I have dated and I've picked the good parts. So that's, you know, like I got those things, but like I feel like, with when it comes to you yourself, we are such blowed human beings that like I have to like go, this is what I need to work on and this is what I need to work on, and I work on those things. So I'm not a good judge of things when it comes to like how I'm supposed to react to something, because I'm still working on those things. But for other people you're like, Oh, you're amazing again, you know what I mean, or whatever. Yeah, why is that? Why? It's like I give the best advice, as you know, a third party, and then it's just like what do I do? You know, and it's just like it blows my mind. Take your own advice, I guess. But it's also like what do you take your own advice all the time? And I think that's the question. I think people don't ask themselves. Are you giving advice that you would take yourself? You know, because, well, we're emotionally attached at that point. So that's what I was saying. It's like it's hard to give yourself advice when you're yeah, yeah, you're clouded with you know. I was just watching Um Ninety Day fiance show and the idea that like these shows where like people fall in love and spin over somebody so much that they want to believe, like this one guy, it's a reality show. Yeah, and they fly over to like Peru and they never even face time with this person, like I know we're connected and she's the one, and I was like Oh now, and then they show up and they're not there. I think they're being catfish, but they're like no, I'll give you one more try. I'M gonna stay here for a couple of days. And it's like, I think they're not. They're they're not the real person. This picture looks beautiful, I just don't think it's them. And you'll just convince yourself. You'll convince yourself of whatever you want, because you want it so bad. Once you're in it, you know, once you're in love, you you know you put up with stuff that you shouldn't and and and people do that all the time. So I I think that's good advice, though it's like, don't take your advice here. To Listen, to listen to your friends. Listen to your friends. Yeah, the smart ones, the smart ones. Yeah, with a good track record. I guess they have a good should you have a good track record? Right? No, all the time, I guess sometimes. I mean some people have gotten the best advice from when you look at their like that, like they just don't want to like be in a relationship or commit, but they have stories and they have I think with experience comes, you know, knowledge, and you can speak from knowledge. You know, you can say like well, back in college used to date this one, you know, and it's like that's a story, that's an experience. You can share that. But yeah, it's so hard. anyways, going back to the show, uh, you this show is so full of like beautiful sets as you got to see. What was the one set that you were just like like blown away by? That's really a hard question, are we? Because the house itself, the rooms are like they're just so thoughtfully trashed, you know, but then the Naja's club is just pretty, and then then the attached room,...

...the room of oddities, right, and that chamber, Chamber of Chamber of curiosity. Thank you, and that convert line with the lights of the ceiling. I am I was blown away by everybody on this production, from costume designers to hair makeup to, you know, our department, everybody. Everybody was so impressive, because you're just like Oly Shit Everybody's so good at what they do. You know I'm saying they, I mean Laura McCoy, who does the costumes. She's incredible, incredible, just got nominated for an emmy, and it's just she did, she did, Laura. It's so great and, Um, it's just like it builds because she goes the extra mile, like some of those costumes, like like Nandor's, like outfit is like handmade from scratch, from sketch from beginning to end, and she goes out of the way to really kind of find pieces that would be appropriate it for the region, culturally appropriate, like all of that. Yeah, it's very important, and so it's just like it blows my mind to like I can't and you came in during the time where the set had been trash, like you said, because a year of neglect had taken over, and so there was trees and vines growing into the house, and so the house is not the way that it normally is, which is like aged, decaying chic, right, right, like normal, normally dusty, creepy, Morbid. This was like another layer where, you know, the panels on the floor were open, you could fall through. There's a giant tree yeah, that's try and tree that fell into the fancy room. There's just vines everywhere. Natasha's WIG will get caught on like branches in there's raccoons running around. So you came in the middle of a renovation of not only, you know, the house being trash, but not just um or the curiosity of chambers turned into a Najas Club, and so you can't do in a moment of transition, which is so, I guess, uh, you know, very fitting for this season because going through transition. Yeah, it's so weird that you came and and saw that, because it's like I always people see the original set and then not a lot of people got to see this version of the set because it was only for this season, and so I'm so excited. It was so rad, it was so, so d we have. Can I give everybody one little tidbit of information? Props to costumes. Flor with with my wedding dress. So that wedding dress was all white. Everything else was done by the costumers. All of the gold was added, they made the Little Gold Ballero and everything and it weighed about sixty five pounds. It was happy, but I mean, oh my God, they did such an incredible job on that dress, and you did it with such grace too, because it was just like, even walking up, even when I was helping with the end of it, I was like, oh my gosh, I was like how is how is like falling, like how is she not falling over? This is so heavy pounds. I'm like, yeah, you were literally like I think I think the garment absolutely weighed more than you and you were like such grace. You were just like are like walking up and meanwhile I'm like with your train, like and it's just like it's so heavy, but it looked beautiful. It looks stunniing on camera. It looked beautiful in pictures and yeah, that was like it was just amazing to be outside with such a crew and everyone. If you if you could, or maybe you did, if you could, if something could magically disappear from any of the sets, what would it be and why? From the sets? Oh, people...

...always say they're like, Oh, I wish I could take that painting or I wish I could this. Oh, like if I could take something. Yes, there was Um um a piece in the in Nandora's little gold came his was in the attic. Or the basement. The base was the basement, the one where you and uh the GIN were negotiating. That left from his bedroom to private dungeon basement. Yes, there was a really cool Um sword that I was like, oh my yeah, it was so cool, and how that it reminded me of something that I had seen in like is a family heirloom and Iran back in the day, when I when I had visited Iran Um. So that's also goes to show you how like authentic everything they tried to like they keep everything so authentic it real, you know what I mean? That blows might like it actually looks so good. They brought up that memory back from you. Yeah, wow, yeah, I didn't, because it was like for my grandfather's grandfather, like it was just an old, old, old, old sword and it reminded me of that and I was like, oh, it would be cool if I could have that. Not that I'm gonna do anything with the sword, but you know, maybe ask your questions that customs or something. When you try to put it in your deaf oldbaggers something, you're like sorry, it's just sorry, it's just a problem. They just such a great yeah, great job. I always think about my my my answer always changes just because there's so many things that change every season, and I think the latest one was I think I just keep saying that. I was just probably asked if I can grab it. It's an old Disneyland calendar or map that was inside the fancy room, or not the library. You know, the fancy room. There was inside one of the books in the shelves, like it was just like and there was. They would totally let you have that right, but I was just like, but a part of me wants to like leave it and be like somebody make a story out of this, like, you know, maybe Sarah Naftalas or or you know, or Paul or somebody else. Like somebody make a story on this. It's the reason why we have it right, like somebody, because was it old man, it was one that it was like an older map, and I was like, but my question was, like how did it end up here in the house? Like that's such a cool yeah, it's a journey of it getting there. You know what I mean? Yeah, but I don't restore to bookstore or the drift store to bookstore. It's just insane. I keep thinking about it all the time. I think I'm just gonna ask for it and like can I just have that map? No one's gonna miss it. I think whenever you guys were at yeah, seven season, yeah, just like, yeah, whatever, whatever. Yeah, I'll just wait till then. It'll be more vintage right then. So that's just gotten older and older and lovely with the characters of like not with Nandor and Marwa. What do you think their first date was like? I think it was probably Um, me complimenting Nandor and telling him how amazing he used to be, and is Um and probably preparing him Um, you know, some blood and feeding him that way. If you was your first day, when when he was human and you were still huming yourself, and not you're talking about what we were human. Yeah, because then that would be the different version of Marwa, where this Marwa is like a shell of herself coming into the control of Nandor and and the gene who's got brought her back to life. So if it was our first date, then it would be dates really didn't exist in in eador back in the day. Um probably would be me cooking a meal for him and Um rubbing his shoulders and making...

...him feel like the warrior, that he was a warrior, the man in the house. Is that traditionally? I feel like that's culturally like. I want to think of like my culture and like how that's usually like yeah, if you're going on a date and it's a Hetero relationship and it's going with female and male, the woman has to show how she would make a good partner and a good wife and a good um provide a good home. I mean not not anymore. But yes, that is a safe for sure, you know, because you know, I mean there was such such a patriarchy and you have to be a deserving woman and be able to cook and clean, and now it's like my parents have. Yes, I mean my parents are I love my parents relationship because, like, they cooked together. They both Cook. My Dad does most of the grocery shopping. Um, like, and if they're have people over a party or whatever, they'll Um, you know, my mom's usually like okay, with thirty people or whatever, and he goes to the store, no jokes. He'll go like four or five times there. Yeah, and then show he'll be like she was like, I need some Cilantro and he's like okay. So that's it right. You didn't forget anything? No, no, no, I didn't forget anything else. She he goes the store, comes back like he'll probably like four Cilantros instead, just too we like I got it all, and she's like I'm so you have to go get I need pis and I need apple and and it's like a woman with the smiths, just going back and forth. He does it, he doesn't complain, he's awesome. Oh, that's a good dad and a good husband. That's great. Yeah, yeah, I think that's very similar to that. We have very similar upbringing with the cultures. I guess my dad would do the same thing with my mom. Would Literally Send Dad to like the girls store at least twice and come back and but it was always like not being specific on the things and it was always like really, my mom, that didn't give this specific on the instruction. I guess because she tried to like send my sibling and they would come back with like instead would be like are you or something, you know what I mean, like it was like that's not it, parsley or something. It's like that's not it, and then like very different, very different, makes the food taste very different, and I remember just eventually be my dad who have to be the savior and be like I'll go get it. It's just like yeah, but yeah, some that are not like that still to this day. I mean, yeah, it's unfortunate, um, but yeah, it's it's so funny. What do you think would be a dish that would be served while Nander was alive and human and Marwa and him were married? What would be a traditional dish they think could be served and and he would like? I think I would say lamb with dil rice. He seems like the kind of man that would like that. Yeah, and they and they also have giant Lima beans in them. Yeah, that would be it. That's so funny. That's good. That sounds really I don't think I've ever had that. That sounds the way my my family makes it. It's like falls off the bone and it's it's really good. I don't have lamb anymore, but yes, that's right, right, that's right. I mean once a while. At one time we ate octopus and I was like makes me really sad to eat octopus. I know, I feelt so guilty. So we found it's because after that I like, you know, it was just like I couldn't. I was just like it's it's yeah, we were hanging out in Toronto. We wanted we walked into this restaurant slash bar in the middle of College Street and they were closing and I think we got early out that day. For some miracle. We were all out early, pretty early in our sense, because we usually shoot nights and you know, late tonight.

We remember we we rabb it around maybe nine, and then we were like should we get like dinner, and it was Cavon and Matt Barry and you and I and we're like where should we go? And then I think it was Matt we recommended it like a college street, because we we wanted to go to Mrs Robinson, which is on college. So we got there and we were like, oh no, and then we were like and I looked across the street and it was like a top US kind of place and I was like, Oh, we could just go there and have it was so good. I don't remember the name of it, do you? I don't. They were lovely. They showed us that little that dining room too. Yeah, they were so littly and they were so extended to see you guys, because they're like, oh my God, all the time. For you guys, I bet it's crazy because you like, you know, if you go by yourself, I feel like once in a while you get someone like, you know, I was in Atlanta and we're hay now, at the asked of Um Blue Beetle there, we went out for a night hour, went to this bar and I was waiting at the bar to get a drink and then the bartender was busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, and then she looked over, she went and she's just like gas. I was like and I was just like what. She was like hello, what can I get? What can I get? And then I was like and it was pretty loud, and then I was like Oh, hi, and then whatever the order was, and I was getting drinks for us, so I was just like, Um, they were there with the cast and crew, so I was getting like around for us, you know, for everyone, and then I had to like scream and I was like Oh, can I get four, like screaming it, and then she got the order and then eventually, after the or she was like, by the way, I love your work. You Gasp, like and you know, you have to remember the show, uh, kind of premiere during a crazy time. Our season two was that the at the beginning of a pandemic or world epidemic. So we haven't really been out and about for about three seasons. So three of our seasons have been and so we just now, you know, we just went to comic on, which was amazing, and we're just now, you know, getting to the vibe of things and and and people watching the show, because they we get to hear from them. They usually can send like you know, they'll. They'll tag you on something on Instagram or or, you know, post something. I follow you on Instagram and I love all the fan art with you guys. Isn't that? It's so good. It's so good and I love it all. But I love that everybody really wants you and Nandor to have the love affair and it's so sweet. Um, it's not a Dermo, that's what they call it. It's yeah, it's really it's pretty fantastic. I think it. I have to say it's very well deserving all of the love you guys. Yet, because I mean so funny. I mean I was so intimidated and scared and nervous and in right bulice, though, because you guys just I mean. I'm gonna Stop Gushing, but you guys are so good. You, I mean, and we only let good people join the troops. So that is a credit to you and how amazing you are. You. I'll beat. How many wives to be Marwa? You know, I think only like three. So Hey, that's still. I always think. Whenever you get a part as an actor, don't you feel like you kind of win like a small like lottery, because you beat people? It is right. It's like winning the lottery for me every time I get a GIG and I'm like, Oh, yes, I got it. And then and of course those days when you're hold on your on hold for a month and then you don't get it. It's like no, the ticket. I had the golden ticket in my hand. I had it in my hand, this close. You're like this close, this close, and then it's think about it, like seven people,...

...a thousand people to send in the tape or whatever for you to get like when you were on hold the three much you're like, well, you got it, but I did not like but there's for the one I got. You don't see like and because we don't promote those. But doesn't make you feel good that even to get to the door, you know at the cusp of you know and you're with the ticket and even if you don't get it, I always I've got to the point that I just tell myself, well, it was just it was their turn and there was it was. It all happens for a reason. But you were at the threshold. You were welcome to the threshold to come in, almost come in, and now they know who you are. I always say that you want to win, you want to obviously get the part and book the part, but what you really want to do is booked the room. Like booked the room, because I've gone in for auditions where it's not right for me. It's not written for me that way. It's not written. Everything's not in my favor. So I go in and I do it my way. I mean Guillemo was one of those. I was not right for guermo. He was twenty years older, I think. I remember you tell me it's such an incredible story. So it just goes to show that, like, if you think, if you think you could bring this character to life, then go for it. Even if you don't get it, you'll never regret not going for it, because if you don't go for it, that's when you regret it. You're like, you know what, like I should have just done it, I should have just done it. And what's the worst? You could say no, okay. They say, okay, move on to the next before ever that plenty of times. Well, you know, the most actors will hear more knows in one week than an average person will hear in a lifetime, because you go about three auditions, five auditions if you're lucky, and you get maybe three callbacks and maybe one, you know, get on hold or the producer session and then you don't get it. So that's already, you know, five knows in one week. And most people will shift careers like in a lifetime. Maybe they'll, I'll grow a job when they start in their twenties, like I don't like this, I'm gonna move into this position. And they moved to second one or a third one, but that's that's about the average. Like three moves in a lifespan for like the average person. But for us, if they're always putting on like this character for this week, for two months, for five years, and it's weird to put on. You know that you're like constantly like just moving and and your life as an actor is just like Google, Google, and you can't really kind of hold precious to one thing because you hear somebody knows you're going to be disappointed if you do. You know, yeah, I mean everybody that you know, that I know, you know that I've known for a really long time. They obviously norm an actor and they're like, I just don't understand how you, you guys constantly get rejected, and I'm like, there comes a point where you just don't you know, it's not about you anymore. You know you you've got, like you said, when you get that close it's almost a win. So it's kind of like, okay, this is good, but, um, I think we just get so used to it. Yeah, it's like it's not about me anymore because like you know that you're you're you've got, you know, you've got talent, you're working, you've done you know. So like it's just like, okay, maybe I remind them of their ex wife or ex girlfriend or something, you know, or or maybe they wanted somebody completely to reread. And it is what it is, and I think there's a you know, we're gonna spread, spread, spread the work around, you know. Yeah, and it's out of our control. So at that moment, you know it was because you didn't have the right hair color or you weren't the other elite Er actor in your scene. Is has to be this height. So you have to be. As it comes down to the most stupid things that you're like, I don't I can't control that, but I can't control is leaving an impression and then maybe you'll remember that next time. And you know, for the most part I feel like they will, you know. So it's always good. So that's good tips and those have been our tips from Harvey and somebody said Harvey. You guys. Before we go, I want to ask you at nausea. There's obviously, you know, blood cocktails, but if you, uh, Parissa and also Marwa had their own cocktail at the Bar, what do you think it would be called and what would be what would it consists of? Why would you not give me time to think about this? Caught you...

...on your toes Um. Well, it's a really, really interesting question. I'm just gonna go. This is so bad because if it's Parissa and Mar Wa mixed together, right, yeah, and then stay and then staying thematically. With Naja's, I would say it is red wine with ice cubes, served with a Straw. Wait, is that yours or mine is just a red wine. Marvel would want ice cubes and a straw, because I feel like back when she was alive, really alive, there was no ice cubes. I love that. Okay, that's good for Najas. That's just for Najas, because it's a vampire, you know, Clientele. What if? What if Najas, Um, we just actually had a mini Najas at comic con, and what if Naja's was for human, regular human people? What would your cocktail be and what would it be called? So I could have I would have a what if we have? Okay, what what would be fun to have? A fireball? Oh, like, would it be like a cute little shot? No, they're like it's those, those drinks that it's like, Um, it's like you put like his it just went to like fireball, like a shot, but that is a shot too, but that's the name of it. But it's like it's like a rumplements and Um, it sounds so disgusting and like so it or something like that and then you like put a little top or a quantrole on top of it and you light it on fire. Yeah, that's what I mean fire. I don't know why, but it just still seems like thematically like nauseas and grand and it's like a show, like it's a nice I like that. Yes, okay, sign me up. I'll take one. And would it be still called fireball? Would you call it something else? I know, I just made that name up because we fire. Okay, fireball. Fireball is a shot. I fireball was discussing. I think we should call it the PATISSA fireball, fireball, the model fire ball. Okay, I like yeah, depending on what nights. Yes, and you sprung that on me. I was like, Oh God, how am I gonna thank you? I'm such a boring drinker now my beer or wine. That's pretty good. I like the aesthetic of that in the visual so I could see that at a bar actually. So, but I want to thank you so much for joining us today. The fans have been loving you on the show so much. Thank you for for showing your talent and coming onto the show and playing with us. We are so grateful to have you here and on what thank you so much for having me. Thank you so much for being such a lovely, giving actor, and that goes for everybody on the show. But thank you so much because you, guys, you made it so fun and funny and comfortable, and thank you. Oh well, thank you, Um and. So, if you want anything to the fans out there who are listening, because I feel like we're gonna see some Marwa Cosplay, because it's it's you know, helloween's around the corner and I feel like it's gonna Happen. So what, what kind of advice do you want to give to any of the fans out there who who stand Marwa and Nandor who just love Marwin General? What do you want to tell them? Well, I just want you guys all to know that my mar was love is true for Nandor so true. And if you if you like the way Marva dresses, just go, go, find the weirdest thing you can find and put it on and there you have it. Thanks so much for joining us. We'll see you all next time. Hi, thank you, bye. You guys. Behind the shadows, it's a pretty action of Straw hut media, hosted by Harvey Gean,...

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