Behind the Shadows w/ Harvey Guillen
Behind the Shadows w/ Harvey Guillen

Season 4, Episode · 2 weeks ago

Super Secret What w/ Jinkx Monsoon

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Harvey sits down and talks with super fan Jinkx Monsoon. They chat improv and power of "yes and..." PLUS a super secret project together? AND Jinkx's favorite What We Do In the Shadows moments.

Straw Hot Media. Today's super celebrity fan is the One the Only RuPaul's drag rays All Star winner Jinks Monsoon. We talk about the power of saying yes and and a potential super secret project in the works. Find out what that is on behind the shadows with the One and Only Jinks Monsoon breathing it's sowhelming heart bizarre. Had to tell me why would anyone want to be live deaf? Might have a reputation before she arrives, but trust me, we have way more fun in the line. We have way more fun the line. I am super excited for today's guest. I have been such a huge fan of this performer for so long and then come to find that they themselves love the show that I get to work on every year. It was just a honor just to cross paths. So please welcome the One the Only Jinx Monsoon. Hi, Harvey, I should have I should have really, said All Star winner Jens Monsouit All Star winner Jens Monsoon. Believe the title you're looking for is Queen of All Queens. That's that's the title that's been plucked out of the air and bestowed upon me by the Grand hi, witch, but it's fitting. Oh well, thank you, I mean thank you. I'm not going to deny it. It's so funny to be talking to you through zoom after we've just spent the last weekend, um harassing each other at Comic Con. And just for the audience at home who's listening to this or might be watching, we are in the same hotel, uh in different rooms, which is so funny. But but it's actually you know, just for technology, we kept the way, but we had to. We had a great time this weekend here in Seattle, which is your hometown. Ish. I was born and raised in Portland, but then I lived in Seattle for like eleven years and it really defined me as a performer and entertain trists. Um, so whenever I get to come back to Seattle, it feels like a homecoming. And when you live in Portland or Seattle, you kind of live in Portland and Seattle. Does that make sense? Californians, Californians, we got it. I think the same thing for us as like l A and...

...then two hours away is like San Diego. So it's like, oh really, but you know, I don't live in San Diego, but I can go to San Diego whenever I want, So, I guess you know the same thing. But I do love Seattle. I haven't been here in a while. Uh, and we know last night we're hanging out with Hale, which you know, Hall Appleman and some friends and we went to uh to what was it called Unicorn? I went to Unicorn and then we m and then we went to your favorite place that you recommended and it was lovely, which was Pony. Yeah, so many horse themed bars in Seattle. Um. Yeah, I saw the girl, you know, still kicking, still kicking h for Sunday for a Sunday night. But so I just want to go back to so you're you you're a fan of Shadows. I want to I want to go back to the beginning. What is it about the show that that draws you in? Ull? You know, I was a fan of the film, um, and just the concept in the premise of the film, and and what draws me to both the film and the series is the performance of the of all the actors. Like it's it's not enough that it's just like a vampire mockumentary, which I already love, but I mean, like the performances that you see on the show are just incredible. You know, I'm obsessed with Natasha Demitrio and um, I basically harassed her into being my friend, you know, just like which is so funny because she literally came up to me and she's like, oh my god, you're not gonna believe she I think it was like you were obsessed with her, and she was obsessed with you. She was so excited to do your podcast. She was so excited that you even reached out, Like she was like through the moon. She loves rupulse drivers and she loves you, and so it was it was so lovely to see that same reaction in person, like talking to you about her and then talking to her about you, because it was like you didn't know you were doing the exact same thing. TV is a funny place, man, um, But yeah, I just I love the performances and then just seeing um just seeing like the crazy ideas that the writer's come up with, you know, like the show goes. I just love that. I mean, it's the same reason I love animated shows is when it's animated, you don't have to be bound by the laws of physics or science. You know, you can do whatever the hell you want. And I love seeing writers just be completely let loose and shadows like because of the supernatural element. It's very similar that way, like you you want to write some witches who want to see a Laslow sperm into this episode. There,...

...sure, let's do it. There's no reason not to. It's really true. You you you hit it right in the coffin. Um, it's it's just the idea that I was talking to Stephanie Robinson who's one of our EPs and writers, and um, you know, she said, it's like we're making a cartoon because you know, in this world we have a baron who eats beats up I for the first time and then vomits profusely like a deflating balloon in mid air. Like it's just the idea that this is real life and that we put it on screen and it's it lives, you know as a show. It built in mind because there's no there's no the sky's the limit, you know, and even then we go further than that. It's like, which kind of relates to what you're saying that it is kind of in the in the world of like anything is possible. In the cartoon, anything's possible but this is live action. Yeah, And knowing that so many of the people involved our drag Ray fans, it makes perfect sense to me that there's like so much camp throughout the show, you know, because it's not just you and Natasha, but the two of you are always telling me about Taka being a drag Race fan as well. And then and then I think of you know, another thing I think we've you and I have discussed before that really draws me to the show is um the unapologetic like acceptance that any person who lives as long as these vampires have lived probably has lost all hang ups on sexuality and gender norms. And like, I love that all of the vampires are essentially pan sexual. If it's true, I mean, when you're immortal, yeah, you get board, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta try everything right it is true, though, I mean, what a great thing to you know, an example to live by. What would we do if we had no restrictions or fear? Uh? You know, because most of the time, as queer people like I feel a society expectations and standards that are put on everyone. And what would you be like if you just threw that out the window? And that's when you really live your authentic self, you know. Uh. And these vampires do the feasts they love, you know, they fuck, they do whatever they want. And they've got great fashion. They got great I mean we're talking you know Laura Montgomery or costume designer who's just got nominated for an Emmy. Uh, is so amazing. I mean, what do you see those outfits this season so far and last season with nausea and the doll, the matching outfits. Oh, I gotta say the doll. You bring up the doll, and...

I just have to say, that's another moment when the show, like I was like, Okay, this show has decided that they can do anything they want because one thing I love and um, my best friend Kenny, who's the really I'm like a witch nerd. Kenny is a vampire nerd. Of course there's overlap. Um, but I love watching because you know, every vampire show or movie or franchise has their own set of vampire rules. You know, these ones can go in the sun, these ones can't. These ones you're the like most glamorous version of yourself. These ones you're frozen in time whenever you get bit. I love watching shadows like create their own vampire rules. And when they brought the ghosts back, because technically they died when they became vampires, so there were human ghosts left behind, I was like, why I never even consider that, And now they're getting like closure with their human ghost selves, and that's important to vampires to get like ghost closure. I just loved it so much. It's just such a good show. I love how proud you are to be on it. You're like the show's biggest cheerleader. And I just love it because I would be the exact same way if I was in your position. I am, and I and I you know, thanks for saying that, because I do. I do love our show, and I love our fans, and I love that, you know, the love that we get and the fandom and the art that they create and all the sweet messages he sent us. And you know, I created this show basically for the fans, because um, there was you know, we aired or premier season two in the pandemic, and so we really couldn't go to comic cons or we couldn't do the shows and the routine and get to hear what the fans had to say. And so I did it out of you know, UM, wanting to give something back to the fans. And it was supposed to be a wonder It was supposed to be a one episode thing. And then someone said, we'll see you next week's and I was like what, I was, no, And so we did this show. Now we're like, you know, in new variation for the last three years, just for the fans. Because I think, I think personally it's always cool to talk to creatives and behind the scenes. You never get to talk to the costume designers or the producers, or the writers, or the set designers or diehard fans, you know, or diehard celebrity fans who love the show as much as we love making it. And and that's I think that's unique, and I think that it's um it really hasn't been done like this, you know before, And I pride myself and having met so many talented people like you who who loved the show because you're in your craft is so great too, and so it's like a compliment top of a compliment.

Uh So I thank you for saying that. Well, I think there's a common threat between um the shows we both have worked on. I'm like it's using the phrases that apply to both of us, since I just do one season every ten years. Um. But but you know, it's I think what you'll find is there is um extreme loyalty in fan bases for UM work that reaches out to outcasts, you know, and make them feel less like outcasts, I know, just to even you know, just to even have drag queen representation on television. You know, because when I saw my first drag show, something in my like queer human ship, my queer humanity, my personage, something was unlocked and came to life the day that I saw my first drag show. And the fact that now people are like having that experience through television and all across the world because there's a little drag Queen inside of them, just like waiting to um burst from the chrysalism that person. It's just like it's fun and and and I I say this again about you know, your show, but it's like to see you know, like vampires. The misfits always identified with vampires, right, I mean that's like misfit number one. We want to we want to be some Like when I was a little misfit, I wanted to be a witch or a vampire, because then I was like, well then there would be you know, like, oh, that's why she's isolated. It's because it's something cool, not because I don't know. I kind of rambled off. There's some kind of point, no, you made. You made a great point in the idea. You know that is true that the kids in the playground who feel like they they're weird or they stand out, they longed for something like watching you know, a show where they can be awaken into like, whoa, that's a world I didn't know about. I didn't know it. The possibility I personally get people come up, just even this weekend at the con, people who are you know, um latina or you know or plus size or or full body or queer and you don't see you know, and or drag queens that for so long we're in on your TV screen, and so for so long we were told there was no world for us on screen, and here we are on shows. Here you are the Queen of all Queens, all...

Star and showing some little jinks out there that there is a world for them and that they are welcome and they are loved and they are worthy of love and so you're through art, we're actually kind of healing and and being progressive and welcoming more people into the way that we wish we would have felt when we were little. It sure makes my work feel more rewarding than when I look at it the other way. You could explain what I do, which sometimes when I'm feeling salty, like someone's like, what do you do for work? And what I want to say? I dress up like a woman and act like an idiot from money. Please tell me you have like a cigarette while you say that, dress like a woman and like an idiot while people throat tall? Is that now you want? You want to live sync? Oh my gosh, that's been one of the highlights of comic con is um. You know, whenever Dale and I are going from one place to another and someone's transporting you to your next engagement, and then we just hear this little um nineteen forties, who let you do in here? Great chail? Girls have a ghost show girls, I'll see you about that. You have the middle Harrington character you were doing all weekend and it certainly brightened my spirits. Did you meet anyone at comic Con? I did? I would see what I love about you, James is that you are and which I think this is why you love the show so much, because that is the world we live in. It's like an improv of rule Number one is yes and you are. Do not shy away if I throw you, like just because you could look you could potentially I could go into a room and look like an idiot and do a bit and no one it doesn't like reciprocate, no one jumps on board. You could look insane. I could look insane any second and you never dropped the ball. Like if it's like come in and I do the bit is like good luck out that girls, You're gonna need it, you know, and then like walk out and you're like, ah, she's absolutely terrible, you know, like they did that yes, and well, I mean I yes, I do because I love that kind of ship. And but I'm also a virgo. So sometimes when I'm yes, ending I convinced myself I took it too far and the other person is just laughing and playing along because they're they're too afraid to tell me that I hurt they're feeling. Because I will commit to a joke. I committed to...

...a joke. Um I committed to a joke with you, I also committed to a joke. Um, all these people were like following me into the green room, and I forgot they were like just inches behind me. But I walked into the green room and just like immediately walked out of my shoes after being in my heels for like five hours, and I just left them at the threshold of the door. And then my agent walking behind me, was like, oh my god. I committed to the joke too hard. I just thought it was so funny to that it was like the shoes couldn't enter the green room, and I did it pretty masterful, but I created a walking obstacle for my agent anyway, Yes, and I saw that. I saw that happen, and I thought it was a bit that your agent was in on, because when you came in, you kicked it. You kicked the shoes off. They went flying. One of them went behind you, and I was like, and they're agent. Literally, I think one of them she leaned down and grabbed it, like your shoe. You lost your shoe. And I thought it was so funny. I was like, is this a bit. I was like, oh my god, this is a great bit, and now includes other people. It's ready to go, he opened, It's ready to tour, It's ready to go. This is how I start every show. Now, speaking of shows, Um, you are doing a tour and I'm super excited. We got to catch you on your last tour. Natasha, Matt Barry and I we got That was such a crazy night. Do you remember how people were like, um chanting and they were like they were choosing sides between Dayla and Dayla and I even though we were like in the show together, but they were like jicks killed Dala. It was it was nuts. It was fun. I know. You never like no one, no one announced that, no one said anything. It was just the audience themselves took it upon themselves. It was like it was like it was like a wrestling match or something, but we were just putting on a holiday tracks trash show. Uh. Speaking of the show, it was so good. It's so funny and so clever. Um. You're you're such a great performer on stage, and I think that translates to on screen obviously, but I think like more people, like I saw how many layers you have on stage, like your your nuances, Like it's just so...

...right to see you as a performer. The other day even here in Seattle. I was I was walking outside and you were in the middle of singing Hello Dolly song uh and do Hello Dolly, you know, and and you commit it and it was just like and I was like, so talented and the parking lot of the valet parking of the hotel, and I was just like, I love that. I love I love your energy. I love that you it doesn't matter where you're at, you are using talent and positivity and and and I love that. I think that that's uh, I think we need more of that. And I'm hoping that that I get to see you in person more because I love your energy is just always so great and I can't wait to see this this next round of the tour. That you're doing well, Thank you, Harvey, and talk about yes And you started singing Hello Dolly with me. We were we were like we were doing a full blown name revital side our hotel. Yeah, we've got to we've got to find a project to work on together, because I can just imagine you and I riffing off of each other with purpose if this is what we do, no purpose. Imagine if we had like a script and a storyline in front of us. Imagine if if someone were asking us to do any of this, You're you're heard here for us, folks share to us. I mean it's true. Maybe we should ask the fans the audience that they have any ideas. If you get any ideas, comment, uh, you know, and send us your your ideas and we'll take a look and see what looks cool. Pitch us your ideas. What we're saying is come, PITCHU chinks and I your idea for us gain go Yeah, why do we have to do all the work? Yeah? I don't like it. Um. Going back to the idea of the show and shadows, I want to ask you, what is your favorite episode so far from all seasons? Oh? My favorite episode so far? Um, well the ones I've already mentioned, the ghosts um, the witches stealing less low sperm Um, those are two highlights for me. Um. I really loved watching Nadia and Nandor fright over the Vampire Council. I love I love that Kristen Shaw has been um, it feels like her part has been getting beefier. Let's see, Okay, I'm trying to think of an all time favorite episode. This is always hard and interesting it at the same time, you mentioned the witches and I feel like the which is the first thing you said. But is that overall your...

...favorite or that those moments I think I think that episode is um my favorite end of one. Oh um the one where Naja keeps is it when they meet Nandor's ex girlfriend and Naja keeps screaming, I don't hate fucking Gene. Oh yeah, might be my favorite Gail, Gail, I don't hate I love that one. That might be my favorite episode. That's a great episode and it references the scene in Twilight. So we do the kickball scene and we're playing with the werewolves and it's like literally mimicking that. That was beautifully shot too, in the middle of a winter storm. That was like the week that we had a big storm in Toronto, so we had to do all the kick scene, the kickball scenes in the field of just snow, like eight inches of snow that fell that night, and it was just the most beautiful, like tragic goth looking, you know. It was. It was a great episode. And then yeah, I think Nimo getting jealous as well of the relationship, you know. Oh, that's a will they won't they situation with Guiermo and um uh nandor. I mean, you know, and I even even though I know Colin Robinson is designed for you to not like the character, right, Like that's if you don't like Colin Robinson, I think that means the writings doing its job, right. But I also like, I love the episode where they're trying to figure out more origins about energy vampires and they get sidetracked by the Siren. You know, my favorite episodes are always ones that bring in another mythical character, because I love seeing the vampires interact with other mythical characters. That's why I love the witches and the ghosts and the I just love like you know, like not just prejudice against witches, Like I love those details she spits when she says that, Yeah, yeah, As a nerd who loves as I love, you know, like piecing together lore and stuff, that's the stuff that really draws me into fantasy shows. I love that too. And well, I mean, we always introduced something. This season, we introduce um gnomes that come to live, fairies. We have fairies this season, and I love that. Last season, the Siren was not the traditional siren that we expect to know of from you know, folklore or whatnot. Um that this half siren is a singing siren and half of their body is a chicken. Yeah. What I love about that is it because it took what we know about, like sirens and heartpies and kind of blended them together and created your own version of...

...a siren. And I love that kind of stuff. That's why I love the writing. And I'm just such a nerd for this show. I was going to ask you earlier, even though it kind of um changes the topic a little bit, but I'm very curious because I was nerd ing out. You know, even though we've chatted and interacted here and there, I still get nerdy excited to see you out at events and stuff. But when we get to riff off each other. Um. I was really excited to meet Hale, but I also was like freaking out because there were some voice actors from Futurama and people kept telling them I was like a huge fan, and like, next thing I know more about the news month would be behind me like me. And then I got to meet Phil Lamar, who's just lovely, and so I was wondering what was was there anyone you nerded out over meeting um this weekend at comic Con and you can't see me in day la. Well there goes to that answer. Then I mean, yes, I always, I always just you know, geek out when I when I see you both. It's lovely. Um and here at the Comic Con this weekend that I will say, I gotta I got a little freaked out to meet the beautiful, wonderful Elvira. You just so iconic. And we have a picture you never prepared. We have a picture with her, and and it is so iconic. We recreated the Sophia loren and um what and who was it? Blonde? It was the picture when she's looking down her her top because she's full you know, uh my, not what is it? It was the Blonde Blonde Show. I can't think of the name of the other of that of the actress. I feel like everyone says it's Marilyn Monroe, but it's not. It's Ursula Andrews. No, no, no, it was the other Studios version of Marilyn Monroe because Marylyn was at twenty century Fox. And to this person, um, gosh, what is their name? Blondie Blondon, blonde blonde Blondon. I gotta look this up because blonde Blondon is going to ruin and blonde blonde it's gonna oh my god, I have to look this up. We um you. Also they had a I mean they were also connected or associated with like the Church of Satan. It was like this whole thing. I was like a documentary that I saw it. What is their name, Jane Mansfield, Oh, Jane Man's Field, Jane...

Mannsfield. That's what it was. It was picture looking away at the cameraman and Sophiela Wrent thought she was out of the shot, but she's looking at her cleavage and we recreated. Anyways, that whole story was to lead up to the point that we recreated that picture with with Della Jings and Alvira and and myself at a table at this comic con this weekend, and it's one of my favorite memories. But yeah, that was one and um And I got to meet Freddie Prince Jr. Very briefly. Uh And that was nice. Um And but I think for me it was l like I I remember watching like Elvira like movies every Halloween and then again in the summer like all the time, you know. So it was just such great comic timing and so still so nice and humble and beautiful and and it was lovely and her energy was great, so I was really excited too. She firecracker that um and um, and we had a little ki ki with Nathan Um Nathan and Christian who are the writers on our Flag Means Death? Are they the writers? It is a writer, but he's also in the show, uh, and he's so funny and so hilarious and and I was with them and Hail last night as we took a recommendation and loved and had a wonderful last night in Seattle. So it was one I'm so glad you had a good time at those bars. I mean, now that I don't drink, I'm I'm less inclined to go out to a bar, imagine that. But I still make time. I still make time to go out to Pony when I can, because that was like I used to live down the street from Pony, and that was like where I would end every night if I had like a gig in Seattle, I'd always wind up at Pony, either in full drag or half drag, and I'd stay there till clothes and then I'd stay there with the staff afterwards while they'd clean up. And then whoever was manager that night would say, Sam, I get Jake's in a car. Oh, pony, the memories will live on forever. Um, did you take photos in the photo booth? No. I saw it and I walked by and I looked at it. Oh, it was actually very calm and quiet. Um. It was a Sunday night, so obviously, Um, it wasn't too busy, and they have a nice pattier. I were just lounging the patio. Um. But it was lovely and it was great. It was really cool. I wish I had taken photos in the photo but withow that to think about it, well, that only means I have to come back to Seattle. Yeah. Well, we have asked all our guests this season on the show this question, and I want to ask you as you know this season, Nausea opens up a nightclub and it's NASA's. Uh. If you Gene Sponson had a drink at Nausea's that was consumable for humans, not...

...vampires, but for humans, what would that drink be called? And what would it consist of oh um oh oh okay, I got it. Okay, Um, it would call be called the red Head Redemption and it would be um like cherry liqueur, set on fire, served in like a goblet, maybe like with lavender kernels. And I don't know that sounds good. I like that. I wanted we'll see nauseas really soon. Um. Well, it's been so wonderful talking to you Jings. It's always so nice to see you in person, to talk to you your energy like I can talk forever about how wonderful I think you are, and I'd love to talk or not talk howers. Oh my gosh. We have to. We have to think of something, even if it's a like a one night a one night woman show in Vegas. One night in Vegas. I love it. But um, thank you for coming on the show. I love that you watch what we do in the Shadows. Uh, thank you for coming on the podcast. The fans UM love you, and I'm excited for potentially hopefully doing something with you in the future. What do you want to tell all the fans who who watched the show? Oh um oh, if I mean, like all of these performers, you might have to look in international um distres tributors to find um. All of the performers on what we Do in Shadows have other wonderful shows that they're a part of that, like are Justice hilarious? Like, um, I've watched staff Lets Flats and Natasha and Ellie, which are two shows that Natasha is also on. Um um Uh, it's a crowd. It's not I t crowd. A crowd, the crowd, the crowd. Yeah, yeah, crowd. Well, anyway, the performers on what we Do in Shadow have like go find their body of work because um, it's I mean I see a lot of it because I work in the UK so often international travel. I ever heard of it? It's true. You have to go check it out. Check out all of Matt and Cabon and Natasha just work overseas. And if you audience listening right now and...

...watching right now, you should definitely check out this year's tour with Jinks and Bende La Crum because they are absolutely hilarious. Where can they find information for that? Jinks? Oh, you go to Jinks and Dala dot com. That's Jinks and Dala dot com and um the Jinsen Dala Holiday Tour This will be our um fifth consecutive year creating a new holiday show. Our fourth year touring will be doing the UK, Canada and the United States, So check out the website and find out where we're going and see um this. I'm really excited for this year's show. I can't like release anything about the plot yet, but we're taking its strange new directions. I love it my kind of show. So you heard it here and get your tickets now before they sell out. And JINX, thank you so much and I love you so much and I can't wait to see you two. I love you. Have a good show. Jinx, p Harvey Havervy. Behind the Shadows is a production of straw Hut Media, hosted by Harvey Gean, produced by Ryan Tillotson, Amda Sanchez and Tyler Nielsen. Original music by Trevor Bumgar and Chris Hendricks, vocals by Maggie Glass. If you don't already, subscribe wherever you're listening, and make sure to follow Behind the Shadows podcast on Instagram for more behind the scenes content, and tune in live every Thursday at one pm Pacific on the what We Do in the Shadows subreddit for an A M. A with Harvey and special guests. Even it's sowhelming heart Bizar has to tell me, why would anyone want to be alive? Did not have a reputation before she arrived. But trust me, we have we more fun. We have way more fun the after line h see you next week.

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