Behind the Shadows w/ Harvey Guillen
Behind the Shadows w/ Harvey Guillen

Season 4, Episode 7 · 1 month ago

Pine Barrens w/ Myrna Cabello

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Welcome to another episode of Behind the Shadows. The show where we talk about all things Shadows with the cast, crew, and celebrity friends. Today's guest is the one, the only, Myrna Cabello, who plays Guillermo de la Cruz's mom. In today's episode we will read a letter from Guillermo's mom to her loving son, and how important it is to support your loved ones, no matter who they are.

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Straw media. Welcome to another episode of behind the shadows. I'm your host, Harvegienn A, K a Guillemo de la Cruz, the show where we talk about all things shadows with the cast, crew and celebrity friends. Today's guest is the one, the only, Mirna Caballo, who plays Guillevo la Cruz mom. On today's episode, we will read a letter from Guillemo's mom to her loving son and how important it is to support your loved ones, no matter who they are. Stay tuned on behind the shadows. Breathing. It's so overwhelming. Heart Bizarre has so tell me. Why would anyone want to be alive, deaf, my hair a reputation before she arrives. But Trust me, we have we more fun in the life. We Oh my gosh. Well, we are back, uh, and I'm so excited for today's guests because it is long overdue. It's the one, the only Mirna. So, UM, for the fans out there, UM, we're putting this together. Actually, Mirna has played my mom on what we do in the shadows for the last couple of seasons and this week's episode was very emotional and very sweet and such a great Um, just a great introduction to what the life of the home feels like and with his family and with his aunt and cousin coming to visit and and sometimes what we do is we pretend to live a certain life because you want to impress our family and sometimes we're not honest with our family. So this week's episode was very much that. But before we get into that, I want to talk about how was the process to, uh, to auditioning for my mother, La Ruse? Oh my Gosh, oh my gosh, it was amazing. I got the call to come into audition and they were saying, you know, Improv and stuff, and I love Improv so I was like, Oh, this is gonna be awesome and I had watched all the shows and so I was super excited. Went in and and yeah, I just didn't you know, I tried to just like let go and like, I know you guys use the cameras and stuff, so it's trying to be in the moment and and here I am. It worked. It worked. It works to like go sometimes right and just be like I'm just let it be, exactly. And the idea that I love your approach to playing my mom from day one if you recall, Um, the episode where we meet Giermo's mom is really sweet when he goes back to live with her, when he leaves the household and she's in the kitchen and she's making and making, you know, and she's making noise with the fridge as well because it's been acting up, and I just love that we got to improvise that scene a little bit and it was so organic to what it felt like. It would have felt me talking to my mom and my Mexican household, and it was important to me that the role of my mom Um feels authentic as possible. You know, and and and and being that, you know, uh and Manon when you want to tell everyone a little bit about yourself, your background, where you come from and all of that. Well, I am originally from Austin, they has, and I'm from Mexican immigrant parents, so I'm like really proud of that. and Um, I started acting, I mean since Little Eddie Beatty, doing school plays and stuff. So, you know, you're beautiful. You have a Beautifu...

...the voice, singing voice, very much. Yes, my husband and I are singer songwriters together, so we have a little our little duo that we do Marna and the bulldog. But yeah, so we have a lot of fun with that and it kind of, you know, ties in with the same thing performing, right, you performed. It's all the same, right. But yeah, so my background is, you know, and I did a lot of theater, I did a lot of Um, I didn't really do TV or anything until college and that's when I decided. I had a theater teacher told me. He was like, you know, I think you're more of a TV actor and I was like Oh, but I wasn't quite sure what that was, you know, at the time, back in the day before all the social media and everything. But so I ventured into it, got an agent and then just started uh, during college and just yeah, it's been fair. I have to say. Being bilingual has helped me so much, so much. I thank my parents for that. Every you know, every day it's like being able to speak two languages is just so amazing and I'm so grateful. You're right, like we have similar you know, my parents are Mexican immigrants as well and and we live in California and I remember I was very adamant about having my mom be played by Um, an actress with Mexican descent. Like I was just like it's very important that I feel that, Guillermo, you know, and I remember telling that to Paul Sims and and him being open and listening to that. And, Um, because you could easily, you know, sometimes Hollywood likes to categorize Latino people into one category. Is like, yeah, you know, she's, you know, she's she could be your mom, she's a Mexican mom. Yeah, and I was like, well, she's Subalteranean. I mean it's still under the umbrella of you know and whatnot, but different cultures. Even the idea of like the billows was the topic of conversation. Remember. Yeah, yes, I remember that. I do. I remember that. And you're saying and you like came. was so cool because I was like, came on set and you were like these are not Mexican, I love and I was like you're right, and immediately it was that connection and we're like, oh, so cool, the authenticity that you like, you like wanted and that you, you know, you got. Yeah, and instead, and to be with the crew and and creative team that's open to that idea, to, you know, to listen to how representation does matter and the idea that you know, not just only, as you know, Latinic characters, but as Latino people who represent the culture and and we want to be seen in a certain light. How important do you think it is for the representation to to come through? I think it's extremely important. You can't, you know that you said it perfectly, when you want to have an umbrella, but I think that if you have the opportunity to do that, I think it just makes it richer. Then you have a little details of every culture that can come out, you know, and then it's just for people to understand. Also, I mean because the media, you know, people learn from that and learning the differences. I think it's beautiful. It's like learning all these things about different cultures. And then for me, as an actor, having that, you know, that authenticity even more so I feel so at home. You know. I was like yeah, this feels good. Yeah, and it's nice to like really be able to voice that because I think for so long we're taught, you know, Um to be grateful for a job and whatnot, and we are, and we're very hard working, but it's also good to speak up and say, you know, hey, this might be I don't think that's the right you know, or because you'd be surprised how many people come up to me like at different like cons or whatnot, and they say that scene are seen together as as you know, as son and mother, that they say that scene with your mom.

I cried and I was like, oh my gosh, wise like because I felt like it was the first time I saw like myself on screen. I could be having that dialogue with my mom in the kitchen, and that's rarely done. Like it's really like a natural orgainic, just like dialogue happening. And the Blos, they bring up a lot and I keep thinking, what if I didn't speak up? What if I did? If I gave up and I was like, oh well, whatever they picked is fine, and someone would have noticed. Someone said those aren't Mexican, when you were. Yeah, it takes you out. It takes you out of the of what it does. We want to present as being authentic and real, and it does take you out, and that's unfortunate because there would have been a moment to make it right, and we did. I feel like we did. Yes, I know you did. You were like gangbusters. I was like you go, yeah, totally behind him. But you're right, it's when you bring up, like, you know, the whole inclusion, when you see that and you feel like somebody cared enough to like do that, you know it's it is very special. It's thinking me like yeah, it is special, yeah, it is special. We're doing. This episode was even more special, I feel, because of what's happening with Guillermo. And so this episode this week, you know, invites his mom and his family over for dinner and pretends to live in this house, which is the mansion and they live in, because he thinks that everyone's out of town. Um, and unfortunately for him, Naga is still there, and we find out that at the last minute he's putting on this persona of of more success than he is and and uh, and aspirational living, where he's wearing Versacchi, you know, shirts, uh, and then the jeens, the couture jeans, and the and the Louis Vuitton shoes, like he's putting on this whole because at this point Guimo started embezzling money from the club. And at this point, Um, because he was realized that he's committed himself to a job for thirteen years that has never promoted him has never seen him in a different light than a servant and he's starting to feel that he has to take matters into his own hands, and he does. He's not, I always justified, because a question I had with the creative team I was like, I don't want to feel like I'm stealing, you know, and it's like well, you know, you're thinking about it. You're like, you're not stealing, you just taking what's rightfully you've earned. Like you've earned this, you worked for this, but you just never got paid. He doesn't get paid. So after thirteen years of service, even with minimum wage, you would have gotten something. So he's taking back matters into his own hands and it's so funny to find out that Naja is doing the same. You know, it's kind of funny. But the really sweet moment in the episode here was when it's it's it's basically revealed that the family is, you know, the vampire hunters. They're all you know, and that was so cool to read because I always thought about, like, you know, the family and the lineage of where did he get this wrong? Where did the van Helsing side come from, which I think there's still more to tap into with the family and I think we will, you know, in the future. And but for this episode it was so nice to like see, oh my gosh, even the grandma, even, I know, right beetles, you know, like she's like see, I know. That was amazing. It was was amazing. And that scene where nausea finally Um is introduced and you all send some things wrong and you're tingling and it's getting warm and and all that, and then you realize she's a vampire and you chase her down the all the way...

...and I get in front of her and to save her life, I finally finally come out. And what what was that like for you, when you're playing my mother? Oh my God, it was the most beautiful moment. Yeah, and like I was starting to get serious because it was you, my son, like you know, I I love you right, and it's just like seeing you except who you are and feeling, you know, brave enough to face the family and say this is what I am. And that was just, to me, such a wonderful moment for your character, because you keep so much kidden in the show, you know, all the time, all the episodes, it's always like your your second, your your secondary, and you accept that and you're okay with it because you have aspirations and you feel that this is what I'm supposed to do to get what I want and not be able to voice your voice. And so it was really special for me. It was really on so many levels. And yet, of course you executing it so beautifully. I mean, I don't know how to do anything except look at your face. Just look at your face, and I was like so emotional it was. I remember shooting that and looking at each other and I was like, Oh, this is really heavy, Um, because we are making a comedy. We'd love to have fun and make jokes and that's all great and we find the lightness in a really serious situation. But for some reason that's coming out. Episode for Guillemo was so Um. I don't know that the it felt just heavier to but also a moment of breath, a moment of holding space, in a moment of relief where, you know what I'm saying, it's just like this weight was taken off and and it was just this beautiful moment. And we still made it fun. You know, we still made it fun and I think it was. Was It uh Frankie, who says uh yeah, it was just like you don't work at the railroad or something like that. It's just like or or what he says. He says, Oh yeah, we knew, like he's like something bad. He like brushed it off and we went back to like, you know, and there was this moment. We all hug and it's really great. But that's not always a story. You know, usually that ends that way, especially Um, I feel like, in different, many different cultures and coming out as a huge deal and, you know, a reminder that there's no expiration date to come out. There's no Um you must feel comfortable in your own skin when the time is right, and it once you pressure you. Unfortunately, for Guettimo, in this moment, it was. It just shows how much love you for his you know, for his housemates, that he you were about to kill Nascha, like you were about to kill her, and that's what he used to be to reflect off and be like stop stopping, he's not, you know, she's not, Blah Blah, because I get you know, and saying it out loud and that's made everything pause for a really good moment and having that power and how detrimental was that moment that I needed to share that really big secret at that at that time, you know, yes, yes, and how you've been holding it too, you know, holding it for so long. Yeah, and just for you, you know, you could see it in your face. Yeah, the way that you like did it was just like, and you know how we do several takes, you know, all the time. Each time was just so powerful. It's just so powerful. I think we must have done at least. I mean they were all like different for me, they felt right every time we did it, but in a different form. There was some that were more emotional. There was some takes that were like, I I hold the one take that I was I couldn't. I just...

...couldn't stop sobbing, you know, I just couldn't stop, and it was Cathartic in a way, just because it was releasing all of this like energy that Guillermo has carried for his whole life and I think because he couldn't Um. It starts with something, right. You want to be honest about everything, but it starts with being honest about who you are, and in this episode was the perfect epitome of definition of that. Like he's not he's pretending to be someone, he's not. He's pretending to be this guy in this outfit, he's trying to put smoke in mirrors and he's trying to say I live in the house. Uh, you can't be comfortable in the home you're living until you're comfortable in the body that you're living and in your own physical home. Yeah, and that was what it was. He he finally opened the window and let it out and it was just like so beautiful and such a release and I love that they did them with the character and the writers. And this is that it happens. So it's official. You know, Guillermo is gay and he's come out and yes, live your truth, you know. So that's beautiful for you. Know, it's just me, because I was I was relating to you, not just as your your mom TV mom, but as a person, you know, having, you know, gay friends, having, you know, having every spectrum, you know, in my family, and then I actually had someone coming out to me, which I was so special because they felt they couldn't someone in my family. But I don't want to you know, that's the story. So I just I'm just saying that it was such a beautiful moment for me because I was like Oh my God, you're so loved, you know. It's like and I feel so happy for you that you're able to celebrate, you know, and that's how I felt for you. I felt that moment too. It's like, Nicole Nico, you wanted. They always tell us you're enough. You're enough, you're enough everything that you are, my love, you're enough and you know and you just present yourself to the world. That's so beautiful and that someone felt so comfortable and and sharing that opening with you. But you do, you do give that aura when you're on set. Not only has your character, obviously you know, playing my mom is beautiful and I couldn't imagine anyone else playing my mom. And it's just that you do. You know, you, you have this energy about you that's very warm and welcoming and makes people feel like they can be completely open and themselves around me, which is why I love you know, when I meet New People and actors and and and, and you did something that was so special that no other actor has done on the show. That I really loved actually, was when you got to set, to get into character, to build this foundation between us. You gave me had written letters and I have those letters still right here and and they're they're really beautiful in their detail and their in Spanish and which I really love. And as I was reading them, Um, and I won't necessarily read them all out loud, but they're very beautiful and they're just, Um, very, like well connected to what these characters are. And you see words that like, you know, like, you know, like proud, like being proud to be your mom, you know, you know, and then making proud of your grandmother. You said that in here, and it's just like, you know, giving me like Animo and like, you know, encouragement and you know, and then saying the back story that's in here. This is really great, is that there was a time where you know, you felt ill. Do you remember that? You wrote that? You know, like it's like when you were little and we felt you would help out me and your dad. You know, I know...

...it was difficult for you. You know get, which translates to I'm so embarrassed. I know you just got here, but to help me out again, baby. But you managed to incorporate like real tenderness, sweetness, humor, uh, into a letter that you didn't have to do that, you know, you didn't have to go to a set and do that and most people could easily be like Oh, thanks, whatever, but it really was great to read this because it gave me a sense of a bigger connection to you, you know, not just as as Mirna is, like the actress, but like as the person is playing my mom and it, I think it really kind of resonates on screen and I and it's because of things most people will go out of their way to do something like that. So you know that I still have that letter, oh, that it works hard and I know it just I packed it in safely and I brought it up. So, yeah, thank you for this and fashion know how, absolutely, how great you are. Absolutely right back at you, right back at you. I mean everything that you just said. I'm just going, well, hello, it's like you we have being on set, you know, and like some people don't realize, sometimes you come on set. We didn't get to meet before that first scene, like we just meant, like right before we started working, right and the stuff. So we don't get to meet like weeks before anything. So to me it was important to bring that connection with you, to have that from the very beginning, but for it to be authentic again, with the authentic. There's authenticity and culture. There's authenticity also in feelings and love. You know, I really wanted that to come through and I thought about it and that's when I was like, you know what, I don't really know a lot of the backstory about us, but I can create what I believe happens and how I feel about you, and and that's how the letter I'll started. And then I was like I want to tell you. At first I was like, should I give it too? I don't know, because it was like one thing, you know, when you're just like is this too? What? What? What should I do with it? Is it for me or is it and then I was like no, because once I met you, you know, you're such a loving, giving person and so, so open too. You made me feel like from the very beginning, when I came on set, I was like you were like right there, you were open, you were like talking to me, like we were connected, you know. So, so that's why. And you brought me in about that again. You brought me into that. You could have, you know, other actors could have easily said like that's I'm, you know, doing this on my own note. You brought me in because you wanted me to be a part of it, and that to me, that's like, that's like gold on the set, you know, because once you can have that, it's easy to make that connection and to feel comfortable. But yeah, and then I was like, yeah, he needs to get the letter. Well, I'm glad you did give it to me, because it really were and it did set me in a different mind space and connection with the character, and it's uh, you know, and it's it's great, and I try to do that. I try to be, like you said, thank you for those kind words. Is Very Nice, like just to be as open and welcoming too, you know, anyone who comes to our set, just because we're building something here together and it's, you know, all of us are in it together, and so if we can just connect us up and we're making a comedy, you know what I mean, we're having fun, but it's so grounded that it's like,...

...you know, yes, we have vampires and yes, we have all these uh, you know, characters and creatures and whatnot, but the humans in the show have to feel real and they have to feel authentic and they have to feel grounded. And I feel when we do see Guillermo and his mom. Those are real people with real emotions and real heartbeats and real, you know, aspirations and desires. And you know, the vampires are are great. The Vampires are great because they, you know, they're eternal. They can live forever. So they don't have any consequences really to the actions. Uh. And don't really waste too much time with the mushiness of, you know, of it all, but humans do. We kind of, especially if you are a soft human who carries their feelings, you know, under what was your hiring, your sleeves, uh, and and all that. So it's really important to see that and to see that represented on television. was really important to me altogether. Uh, not just because of, you know, the storyline of being guillemo coming out and being gay, which is the whole premise of this episode and for him and his story arc Um, but also representation and the family that we see in the grandma and the talking in the conversion dinner. It's so how fun it was the family, you know, the family was so great. Oh my God, that was so cool to meet them and then to have that whole dinner thing and that it was incredible and playing off everybody, just everybody's little personality. You know, it was so cool. It for everybody and it was so like it was. Sorry, I was just gonna say. It was so greatly cast too, because you've got just like in every family, you've got like Oh, that cousin, yeah, you know what, I know you got that, or like Oh, yes, she's the Thea that does this, she's that. You know, everybody can relate, because if we are were all the same, you know it wouldn't play. But also the Badass family that that the slaves together, you know, vampires, slayers. Oh my God, that family that slays together stays together. Baby. Yes, I know, they were, they were so they were so amazing the energy that and that was about. That was about. I felt so Badass. Yeah, during that scene. I feel yeah, every time I did the animal scene where he does get to like fight into combat, I feel so bad. I don't know what it is about it, but you're like yes, and it's powerful and and also this family walking down the street to go to the park would look like any other Mexican family with the picnic basket. But the fun part is that, like, you have no idea, you have no idea who this magical family is. And and I love that, because we're not assuming and we're teaching. Don't, don't, don't judge a book by its cover. You know, just by likely. Don't do it. Do you'll regret it. Do, like, I know it's amazing. Growing up, you know, like I didn't see a lot of, you know, inspirations in American television anyways. Um, who were some of your acting inspirations growing up that you could see yourself a relate to at least? Oh my gosh, well, of course you've got you know, hello, you know, that's like she's she's such a groundbreaker, right, yeah, and her. Yeah, I'm just gonna meet her because she did glory kill. It's Um show one day at a time. Yes, yes, yes, and it was just mind blowing. I was like, oh my gosh, I was like, I mean, I'm a fan of Westside story and it was just like wow, and just just the nicest and such a wonderful human being. But yes, when an icon, yeah, icon right now. Well, that's the thing. When I was growing up, there wasn't that much. Yeah, and most of the Times people, this is so sad to say, but people would hide their ethnicity in order to be able to play,...

...you know, which is I remember what was it? The Tony? Some an actor came up and said that the second I was pronouncing my name a certain way so that it would be anglicized, and it just makes me very sad. Right. And so there wasn't like a whole lot of that, you know, for me. So read the sticks out. But now, of course, now, of course we've got Eva Longoria, you know, we've got so many wonderful people that are coming out and telling their stories and now there's more inclusion. It makes me really happy to be able to see that and to see it across. And it's not that long ago that. I mean, that's you know, when I was growing up, I didn't see myself represented, you know, and and it became hard because even when I was coming up, and that wasn't that long ago, Um, I had one of my first agents ever when I was in high school. Um was like, well, what do people call you? And I was like Harvey, you know, because if you know me, you know that my legal name is Habet and hobby is what everyone called me. And I was like Harvey, Harvey, and then it's like, well, what do you think of? Like Harvey, Harvey, and I was like Harvey and I was like Oh okay, and they're like what about the last name? Let's changed, and I was like no, I don't want to change her last name, and they're like okay, well, how about Harvey Harveyge and Harvey Gee and Harveyge and sounds pretty good. And then, weirdly enough, when I was in school, because I went to in Orange County when I was little, I went to school where the teacher for some reason couldn't say my name, so she with me and then she changed it. And so those a period of time when people could just call me Horvey or harvey and it kind of stuck. But a part of me was always like I want to, I want to like you know, I wonder if I go back to just what my because that's my legal name, but also the fact that I got advice later in life where, Um, I was starting to a friend of mine who was an actor and he somehow had a connection to like Brad Pitt, and that the MOMS, the MOMS knew each other. BRATT PITT MOM and his mom new each other and and that mom for my friend asked Bratt Pitt's mom said, hey, my son's an actor to do you have any advice for him? And the one piece of advice that Bratt Pitt gave him what was changed your name. And I was like, Brad Pitt wanted to change his name, and he's like but it sounds like he got through the door. No, used to change your name because once you get to a certain level, your name belongs to everyone, and so when you go into a room, everyone who says Brat, Bratt and then you turn around, you think you know them. You're like hi, do I know you? And it's like no, I'm just a fan of your and I was like, Oh, you're a fan. I thought I knew you, because the name has now belonged to everyone, and so I thought about that. I was like, you know what, if you know me by my legal name, your family and your friends, so when you call her by my name, I know how to turn and act and I know you. And if you know me with just a stage name, then I know how you met me and how the introduction was. And the introduction came from entertainment, and that's okay because I like to divide that. My family and friends like I'm very like protective, and so that's something for me like special with my family, my friends. I'm hobby. And then people have heard about the story recently and they sometimes try it, like in publicly hobby, and it's like, I don't, I don't know you, but you know, do not know you like that. You can call me hard. You know, maybe after a while, when I get to know somebody, it becomes like a like a little bit of okay, you can call you like I know like the director on her show, Yana, after working here for so many years, and she's so lovely. She has nicks, nicknames for everyone, you know, Um for Natasha and everyone. And she was talking to me. She's like what do people I was like, well, my when I was little, they call me hobby, and she's like, Oh, why? And she goes like Oh, I wish I could call you, and and she was my won't unless you feel comfortable. And then after a while, she she was so sweet and wonderful and and I just feeled a connection with her and she kept trying, like she would say it accidentally. She was like Oh, how sorry, you said it again. Sorry,...

...sorry, Harvey, and I was like you can call me hoby and then so now she calls me hobby, because it's almost like a not everyone is in that small bubble, you know, but it really stood out to me. Um, it really stood out to me that that was that was that was great advice actually, because most people would change that. You would think that this male whose Angelis accident would be fine with his name. You like, great, you're good to go, but even this position, he was like, I wish I would have changed my name, because it belongs to everyone and I never thought about that. I was like it does, because when I'm in a credit room, if I someone yells that, I know that's like, is that my is that my brothers and my cousin? That I said, you know what I mean, like it's not someone I know, someone's in danger, like they know me by that name. But if you know me as harvey, that's Great. You're you've met me through some kind of introduction, through work, film, Um TV show, which is great. That would be in a compartment in itself and then I can still go home and uh and know that's for me. So it makes me feel that's mind blowing, right, because you never think about that, like when your career is starting, you don't. You don't think about those things right, like your guys like once you start blowing up, it's like there, I'm sure you have a lot more considerations than I do when I go, you know, to the store or something. You know, we have way more fun. But but it's so true about the name, because I started saying, well, actually, my dad, there's this weird story in my family. My Dad says we named you after Merna Loy, and I was like why? Yeah, but then it's like I'm trying to get but then my dad, my like my dad and my brothers are saying my mom says meet, and so I meeting that, and so I know, you know. And so, like I'd be on set and and I went through the same thing. I'm like I could, you know, and I'd a Erna too, because people were like, I can't do meet that, I can't do meet that, I can't and I'm like, all right, yeah, it's true. It holds a different place, you know, in the mouth. But so yeah, so I'd say, like, you know, in reality my name is both, you know, and it's like, but if you call me Mirna, I might be like a mine trouble. I know, isn't that weird? It's just like because, I mean, yeah, like the whole idea of that and that was an agent who was Mexican who recommended that, which later I was like that broke my heart because I was like, oh, but I see what he was doing, because he was a product of his time, of being told like you want to work in his business, you gotta get a stage named Kid, and I was like wow, but then, looking back, it was like a like a happy mistake, I guess, because now I'm like actually, yeah, I'm kind of great fool that I did that because, and you know, a lot of like celebrities and stars and actors have changed. They're not their names like Miley sires, you know what I mean, like you go down the list, everybody, everybody. So I wasn't that terrible, but because it doesn't change who I am and who I'm representing, who I am to myself and and what I mean to my, you know, family and the people that I love, and so it just it blows my mind. But do you think that the show itself does a good job of representing the Hustle of the Latin x people? Financially stability, the animal, getting the fridge, wanting to provide for his family. Do you think the actually a good job with that? Because I think that's kind of in our nature, like it's like the hustle of that. Oh my God, it just makes it's like it's like how me and my brothers are with my parents. It's like we want to give them everything. Yeah, it's like you know what I mean. It's that same thing. It's when I think it totally does, which is why I felt like it when I was on doing this part, I was like it just feels like so natural and so at home. It's just that...

...wanting to, like, especially being immigrants, you know, in the states it's like and you see how they struggled and my parents, you know, my dad was a waiter all his life, you know, and so he provided for us and everything, but there were things we couldn't have, and so now it's like, Oh, I want to give you you know, I want to you know, we like talk about it. One of these days. I was like, I'm gonna buy you a house and buy a house. I want to buy you a house. You know, that would be like a huge, you know thing, but it's it. I definitely, definitely, it's like I feel it from you too. It's like, my mom needs this, I'm I'm going to do what I you know, I'm going to give it to her. She's going to get it, you know, because she's my it's just that. Yeah, we do that for each other. We fight for each other and absolutely what do you think, you know, as my mom, what would my mom want for Guimo as a job? What do you think her original want for him for a career must have been? As a parent, you want to protect your kids, you know, and encourage your kids to pursue a career that's stable. I know that growing up, my mom would say, you know, you know, like you're gonna be a doctor, lawyer, and I was like I am, and I was like it was decided. You know, I am Um. But we do that because we're afraid that they won't, you know, end up in a stable job and whatnot. Uh, what do you think the edimal's mom wished for Guermo to be, if if she had to pick a profession for him? Okay, I'm gonna tell you something because, Um, yeah, just when you said that my mine, no, is secretary. My Dad was like you need to be a secretary, honey, because then you can make you know, that's a profession. Right. And so they didn't. I was like a Weirdo or snographerpher like boo, boo, boo. Right. But so in even in that scene we were talking about where you worked, like the banana bread right to me, I feel that I was proud of you no matter what you did. I really felt like like Guillermo's mom, wanted him to follow his path, because me, you know, and personally following my path. I think that's where I felt that with you, and it was more like, but if I had to, if I had to, if you were like no, you gotta pick something, I would say if you had ended up in like management, and I would have been like, Oh my God, you know, he's like he's that, he's a manager. He's like, you know what I mean. He's like he's like he's up there, he has a voice, he has this you know. But I think at the end, for the way I chose her, is that and at the end, which reveals also when you come out, it's like none of that matters to me. All of that is superficial to me. What matters to me is you and my child being happy and fulfilled and confident in this world. You know, like I really, I really felt that protectiveness of you and when you came out, I'm like, of course, you know, yes, Nicole, yes, anything you want, because I know the love is there and I think that's what's most important. I'm not gonna say that all families are like that. That's what I was gonna say. I'll say that's a very beautiful approach because not, that's not always the norm. You know, it's not, I was the norm with a lot of families, and so I'm glad that this episode we got to show what what it could be like if you just lead with love and support your child and support what their choices and support who they...

...are and when they actually feel comfortable enough to share, uh, you know, their true feelings, that you listen and that you accept an open heart. Uh. So I'm really proud of this episode. This episode is kind of go down in the books one of my top favorites, and that's, you know, uh a big part because of you and uh and how you presented gear's mom and and just want to thank you for for doing it. Oh my God. Thank you. This is like a dream for me. It's so easy to play off of you. You just so you give. I'm not kidding, you're just you're so loving and giving. It's it's not even like it's a no brainer, than you felt it immediately on set. So thank you for giving me this, because I did hear, I heard in wardrobe that you had like a large part in like picking also as well, like making sure there was a thinic, and they had said that to me and and so they were like, oh, so like you, and I'm like, oh so he like saw my cake and Oh my God, and I was just like, you know, like star Struck. But but just all of that, all of that to me and I lost my thought. Where am I going with this? I don't know. I'm a machine. We were just talking about how great it is to just, you know, be working on the show together and do this episode and and and how easy and effortless it is to to kind of bring these characters life, especially with Ermo's mom and Guemo in the same moment in this episode was so special and sweet and Um and I'm glad we everyone gets to see it now. So Guillermo is here he's Queer, get used to it, and he's a Badass. That's right, he is a bass but before we go, we've been asking everybody. So this season we obviously opened Najas, the nightclub, and we're asking everyone if you had a drink or if Guillermo's mom had a drink at this bar, what would it be called and what would be consist of? A human can drink it, not just a vampire, but a human. Well, okay, okay, okay, the first thing that pops into my head is a Mama Sita. And what would that consist of? Oh my God, it's gotta be fruity. Yeah, so I think we gotta stick some like pineapple in there, pineapple juice, mango, some coconut. Yeah, a little mango, fruity like, maybe a little rum, and then maybe can you mix? Can you mix rum and Tequila? I think you can mix rum together. They're both. Well, it's a it's a clear rum. Maybe you could do it. Yeah, I'm sure you can't. Whatever, it's your drink. You could do whatever you want. It's okay. So, yeah, so, so you put a little a little rum and Tequila in there, and then you gotta have a cherry. Oh Yes, what have you? The shot of Tequila as your starter and your chaser. Is the rum based? Something like that. I like it. And then you set it on fire. Said on fire. You said the Tiky like you know, I love that. What would it be? So it would be called. Okay, so we got the name, we got the ingredients. Um, that sounds delicious. I would totally order that because, you know, you get a shot and you get like a Chaser, so you could probably do both. I don't think if, yeah, you can probe with both rum and Takila together. I mean you might have a hangover the next day, but that's okay, it's part of the fun. It's just you know. But what about you? If MARNA had a drink that wasn't the character drink, what would that drink be? Or what's your go to drink? Oh my God, I love Tequila on the rocks, like Sipping Tequila, like the real like, yeah, the very age Tequila with a lime on the side, like very simple. And then,...

...yeah, yeah, yeah, because I also heard, like I got it, it helps you lose weights. This is helping me lose weight. This is my diet. I'm in the Diet. No, I'm just well with that. We conclude this week's episode, and thank you everyone for joining us. Thank you so much to my mother for joining. Oh, I love it and if you if you can come, happy you're from, you're part of the family. Now, if you want to say anything to the audience, who have fallen in love with your portrayal of Guima's mom, with the show itself, what would you like to tell the fans? I'm so grateful. Thank you so much for all your love and support. I am like walking on cloud nine, just eving being a part of this and go out there and just love, spread the love, spread the love and the acceptance. If you love me that much, then follow my example taking a following. Where can people follow you on socials as well? Oh, I've got instagram and I've got it, y'all, dot RNA, and then I still have facebook. Is I'm old. We'll start off with instagram and then they can follow instagram. Right. It's like, yeah, you don't need to do anything else. Well, again, thank you so much and we'll see you next time. Okay, behind the shadows it's a production of Straw hut media, hosted by Harvey Gian produced by Ryan Tillotson, Amda Sanchez and Tyler Nilsen. Original Music by Trevor Bumgar and Chris Hendricks, vocals by Maggie Glass. If you don't already subscribe wherever you're listening and make sure to follow behind the shadows podcast on instagram for more behind the scenes content and tune in live every Thursday at one pm Pacific on the what we do in the shadow subreddit for an a m a with Harvey and special guests. Even it's so overwhelming. Her Bizarre has to tell me why would anyone want to be alive deaf? Might have a reputation before she arrives, but trust me, we have way more fun on the after line. We have way more fun on the a line. See you next week.

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