Behind the Shadows w/ Harvey Guillen
Behind the Shadows w/ Harvey Guillen

Season 4, Episode 4 · 4 months ago

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Straw hot media. I'm Matthew. This is a new a k a the Jin Uh, and we are taking questions. In fact, we're about to take one right now. If you have a question and you want to come up here and ask it live, just raise your hand and we will bring you up. Yeah, come on, breathing, it's sowhelming heart Bizzar has. So tell me why would anyone want to be alive does not have a reputation before she arrives? But Trust me, we have way more funny after life. We have way more funny after life. How are you a new I'm doing really well. Thanks for having me. I'm I'm excited to be here all right. So, if you're ready to just start fielding questions, I have Lego and then we have some folks in the chat who are excited to to give you questions. Just to get the ball rolling, I will ask you one from someone who could not make it today. Let me pull their question up. This is from Kira Lou on discord, who could not make it today but left a question with me. They said you spend a lot of time playing against Cavon and Harvey, since obviously most of your scenes are with Nandorin Guillermo, but is there any other character in the show that you would like to have more scenes with, and, if so, how do you imagine those scenes going? Oh Man, Um, yeah, most of my scenes are with with Cavon and Harvey, just by the design of my character. I mean it's kind of a hard choice because everyone on the show is so funny and so like such a joy to work with. Um, I think I think a Jin Naja kind of team up would be really, really interesting. Um. Natasha is such a great, great actor and an amazing improviser. Um. That's one of the things that I've just kind of realized by watching the show when it comes out and then having been there in person, is just how much stuff gets cut out just because it's it's Improv and it's Um, you know, it's it's unscripted. It doesn't work for it all to be in there, and Natasha is one of the best at that. I would I would love to have a little bit of gin and and Naja interaction. That sounds like it would be a lot of fun. I think everyone would be into that. And you mentioned you said that you used to like you were a fan of the show before you were on it, right. Yeah, yeah, for sure, that's awesome that you get living out the dream, just getting on the show that you were a fan of. It is, I mean, and I I mean I thought season three was was my favorite season. I mean just if you look at I mean if you just Jackie Daytona, and I mean that's a pretty season making episode as it is, but just the way that all the characters have evolved from season one to season four and then to be, you know, be able to be a part of that and, Um, you know, a big part of that, and this season is is really just, I mean what, what a dream. It's a dream for the fans too. They're they're loving the jet. Uh. Speaking of we have a fan here. Uh. What is this? Name? Book sns skates, books and skates. Books and skates are skates. All right, come on down, books and skates. Make sure to UN mute your mic to ask your question. Hi. Hi, my name is fired, for my books to ground, because I do books and skates at the same time. But yeah, like what, what is? What do you think is the funniest cust member that like Fox up the scene the most? Then you have a lot of bloopers about it. I mean again, because thank you for your question. I think because I spend so much time with harving Cavan, it is really I mean, I'm I'm sure you guys remember that scene where Um Cavan is kind of crossing off his wives and and he says something like Oh, that you know, this one, I think, is smarter than me, so you know, I'm gonna Cross her off. That scene. The way we film, that lasted about ten minutes and it was just him riffing on on like reasons to cross out, you know, these these wives, and I'm so happy that they didn't put me in that. I mean they must have realized because from from take it wasn't written in that way, right, and in the script it was just kind of Um Nandor crosses out wives and talks about it. So that was completely up to Cavan to to come up with the you know, with the reasons, and I lost it. I mean it was just one continuous tape. I was laughing the entire time. Um,...

I think, came and looked over at me one time and it's like, you know, he thought I was like writing in my notebook because my head was down, but really I was. I Like I couldn't put my head up because if the camera happened to catch me, it would just I would just be cracking up. So I have so much respect for all of them. Like I said, as as improvisers, I mean I had an experience with with Klan. Every time I was on set he would he would make me laugh. He's such a great improviser, such a great actor and warm person too. Thank you for yeah sound he sounds like a really fun person to be around. Absolutely, that's that's that's my guy. Thank you so much. That's a great question. Uh, and now we have big Marion Barry. Three thousand and five right. Chicago residents are sorry you didn't DC residents DC. Yeah, as a DC resident, loved the name. My my DC friends are gonna kill me that I said Chicago. I'm sorry. It's one of my friends, DC Nell, is in Chicago. I think that's where my my it's fair enough. All Right, Mary and Barry hit us with the question. Make sure to UN meet your mic. Thank you so much. Um, my name is Evelyn. I kind of just picked a random red it's name here, so I hope you enjoy it. Thank you for choosing me. Um, I wanted to ask while you were filming on the show, did you get to do any Improv of your own in any scenes and, you know, did you enjoy it? That's my question. Thank you. Thank you. Um. Yeah, I mean it's it's one of the foundations of every you know, the way that we we filmed every single scene is um to make sure that we get what's on the page and and the scripted show as it was intended by the writers. And then, you know, after we do take one, there's you know, we kind of fall into oh it would be funny to stay this year, and you know. So there's a gradual kind of improvisation that comes in and then the last take of every scene is is just we call it funzies. I think we were Harvey and I were talking about it on the podcast last week and it's it's amazing. I mean everyone gets improvised, everyone just kind of gets to to throw stuff at the board and see if it sticks. I mean that was my favorite part of of shooting. I mean the scripts are amazing and you know, I I it's one of those things where I would be on the plane to go shoot a scene or two to go shoot an episode and I'll be laughing a lot on the plane because the scripts are are so funny. But the ability to improvise, and especially around that group of people, Um was, was really a blessing and I enjoyed it thoroughly the last time that I I mean, you know, I did Improv in in high school and but it's just to be able to flesh out a character like that. I think that's what the what the Improv is is so good for and, like I said, there's you know, and I've seen this said elsewhere, we could probably make another show of just the Ad Libs and then the Improv Um. But I think the reason it's so successful in the show is everyone is so confident in their character. There's so much work that all all the actors do too, to find their characters and the backstories and it is this ridiculous world, but to be able to ground it in an improvisation is really a gift. So I I adore doing it and I just wish that, you know, there was there was some way that that y'all could see that. Of course, you know, we're constrained by the by the time limits of actually making a TV show and not an Improv show. Thank you so much for answering my question. Just want to say you're a great addition to the cast and I watched with my parents. We all love it. So thank you so well. Thank you so much. Thank you so much, and I to your folks thank you. I'll be sure to tell them they're going to freak out. All right, now we can allow grinning stand who's been waiting very patiently up here, to ask their question. Hi, thanks so much. Sorry, Mi Mike Wasn't working before. Thanks so much for joining us. Um, thanks for having you. I I wanted to ask what it was like coming onto an already established cast and how that might feel different as an actor, you know, like who, along the crew or the cast did you find that you got on the fastest with, or who did you learn the most about the show's work at this from? Yeah, that's a that's a great question. Thank you. Um, it was, I mean it was, you know. I mean I was pretty nervous walking onto that set at first. Part of that is because I'm a fan of the show and there is, you know, an expectation of you know, this is gonna be Great. Like you have to add to it you have to be there for a reason. Um. Very quickly, though, I've found so much acceptance on the set. Um, my my first scene that I filmed in this season. You you'll see, I think next next episode, Um, episode five, and that was with with Cavon. So camon was the first person that Um, that that I worked with and I interact with, and it was just such a you know, again,...

...it was so welcoming. Um, and I know, in talking to him, like the way that stuff moves around in the show, you never know, like you know, we we have scripts, but you're never like sure what the storyline is gonna be in three episodes or four episodes. It's it's always changing. We have drafts that you know the writers are still writing and you have to see how you know what the chemistry is like and where the season is going. But I think, Um, well, I know when when I first showed up, I think Cavan was like, okay, this guy's here for for one or two UM scenes or one or two episodes. and and you know, luckily we we got on really well that that first uh, that first time, but I think I just kind of kept showing up after that and uh, and you know, got got to, of course, work with everyone during that time. But, UM, yeah, and and you know, as you're there and as you spend more time there, it's it becomes more and more of a family. You know, you get to hang out, Um, you know, we get to hang out with each other when we're not shooting. We get to, you know, hang out in each other's trailers and and, you know, really come to to be friends working on this thing together. And and my my thing and one of the reasons I say that this is one of the highlights, if not the highlight, of my career. So fine, I'm talking about the music industry. I'm talking about, you know, acting. Is that my approach to everything that I do is always, you know, I I tell people, do good ship with your friends. That's that's all I want to do. And it was so evident from day one that shadows was going to be that for me. And and to see the effect that it has on all of Y'all and see the effect that Um, see the fact that it's coming through right like the chemistry that we have as character is but also as actors on the same set. To see that chemistry coming through is is just is so gratifying for me. So I hope I answered your question, but yeah, I just had to say like, it's, it's it's been the pleasure of of my career to to do this so far. Yeah, that's excellent. Thank you so much. Of course, I love the the enthusiasm that that is so obvious that you have for this show. Just in the way you're answering these questions. It's so clear how much you love the show that you're working on. No, it's and it's, and it's hard not to it's and it's. It's contagious, it's infectious. Um, maybe that's not the language to use, but Um, it is. Uh, it is something that we all feel. That's all right. I think this is the one virus we everyone wants to catch. Um, all right, we have kph. I don't know how the heck you'd pronounced that, but you are up next. Maybe you can tell us how to pronounce your name. So My name, uh, is the actually Greek phonetic spelling of the island of Creek. Oh, cool, fancy. So that's how you could say uh, so new. Thank you so much for doing this. Of course. Of course I wanted to ask really quick uh Allah, Aladdin and the genie. Will we ever hear the GIN sing? Um, you, you will not. Um. I think I already used this joke on twitter, but I didn't want to step on baby collins feet. But Um, no, you, you, you won't. It's Um. You know, for for better or worse, I don't know. Do Do you think that would I wonder if the GIN as a character sings, I feel like his singing voice would be a little a little gravelly, a little, you know, I don't know. It's singing in an accent. I will say, is pretty hard. So I know, I don't I don't really know if I'm up to the challenge as it as it exists. But yeah, no, I the opportunity never never came this season and and I'm I'm more than happy for Um, for for mark two to fill the singing shoes on this season. Thank you so much. For sure. I just want to point out for those of you know in the audience you don't know, nuke was an American idol contestant. I hope you don't mind me saying that. No, not at all. It's it's true. I mean it is. This is, uh, you know, a funny story. In fact, how I knew who you were before the show came out, before you were on the show, rather because I saw you on American idol, you know, a decade ago. I think it was yea. Uh so that was fun saying, wait a second, I think I recognized this guy. I'm I'm floored by the number of people who who recognized me just kind of in daily I mean, my my appearance is, I mean I think changed pretty drastically in the last thirteen years. But Um, I'm I'm so I'm so shocked by that. But you know, again, like having the response to this character has been insane, even just to see people like, Oh my God,...

...that's him from from thirteen years ago, people having thesing memories. I will say that. and Um, I'm just glad to you know, have people, uh, you know, keep keep up with my work. Um, so, that's that's very nice. We speaking of, uh, you know, American idol and in the show. What what was that career path like for you? How did you get from from American idol to what we do in the shadows? Well, Um, so, when I finished idol, this this is, you know, we went on a fifty city tour that was two thousand and nine. I, you know, started my journey in the music industry. What what I what I kind of found at the time was that there was and in the music industry. There was a certain stigma attached with Um. Being on idol Um. At that point, the show I had been around for eight years. You know, you you had you're Kelly Clarkson's and Jennifer Hudson's and Carrie underwoods and and what have you. But, you know, the market began to be flooded with with us. So it was it was kind of tough feeling and because of that, because I kind of felt like people weren't taking me seriously at that point, I started releasing music and writing music under a pseudonym, that's totem. That's that's why my social media handles are totem sound Um and had to had to, you know, a fair amount of success with with totem Um as totem. So not only was I, you know, releasing music is totem and and you can find that on spotify. It's, you know, a couple, you know, millions of plays on on there, but I was writing a lot of music for pop artists around the world. You know, I was spending some time in soul, South Korea, writing K pop. I was I was writing, you know, Swedish style pop stuff in in Um, in Stockholm and in Oslo. It was in L A, you know. So I was doing a lot of that and what it turned into is I was doing more behind the scenes stuff, writing songs that I was performing. Um, just because of the, you know, realities of the music industry. It's it's Um, you know, it is what it is. But I I just at a certain point I got really tired of of being in a studio all day. Um, my my love and my goal and my, you know, my passion is is being on stage, is performing, is being in front of the camera. So I got a great opportunity to audition for a Broadway like a lab of a of a show that was going to Broadway. Um, and it's just kind of a way that, you know, you test out the material, put it on its legs. Um. To be able to audition for that, saying an act and then to be a part of a cast and perform something was really I mean, I I'm I missed it and I you know, I mentioned I uh, you know, acted in middle school and high school and and, but then I kind of just went straight into music. So to be a part of a Castigan was really awesome for me and I kind of I had was already getting a little burnt out and a little, you know, unfulfilled writing and being in a studio all day. So I kind of made the decision I want to try and make this work. Um and I, you know, started, started from the bottom. Um, in in that industry and in acting, and Um got a chance to be in a great off Broadway show written by, you know, one of the best pop songwriters on the planet, Ross Golan. Um Working with Joshua Henry and Ryan Vasquez and Sierra and the show is called the wrong man. This was and you know, everything from there has just been a process of trying to hone this muscle, trying trying to make this industry, you know, a home and somewhere where I feel comfortable and somewhere that I feel like I'm adding, I'm adding something to the projects that I'm a part of. Um and again, the the you know, my my north stars, do great ship with your friends. So, as you know, that's that's what led me here and I'm again so gratified that I have actually found what I was looking for. That's that's a rare thing and I think to be, you know, to to be in kind of the pop culture conversation, you know, twice in in two decades for very different things. Uh, is an experience, but I I couldn't have gotten here any other way. You know, I don't other I don't know any other way other than to to follow what you want to do and and work hard and hope that it works out. That's an awesome mantra to have. I think we all need to sort of take that on. Just do stuff with your friends, do have fun. That's great. Have Fun. And you know, when I say do, do a good ship with your friends, it's like that's that's work, that's you know, when I'm hanging out with my friends, like we're writing stupid songs or we're or we're, you know, going to restaurants and bar is in talking about it and talking...

...about what makes that great. You know, it's there. There is there's a certain degree of like needing to immerse yourself and whatever you're doing. That is so necessary, I think, for us is as just human beings, to be present in what we're doing and I think that that for me, it's I feel more present when I'm with people that I love. That's awesome, all right, makes you meet your night intellectual purpose. Yeah, I got it. I thank you. Thank you for taking my question. I think one of my favorite things about what we do in the shadows is the way they take like real monster and magical lore and just turn it into something like really, like hilariously mundanely modern. So, so like I love like. I love the stories of the GIN and like how they they stayed true to the fifty two wishes instead of just three. And I really really liked how how you played the gin, because you were so like you were like that customer service representative that is just overworked and has been doing this for way too long and that that attitude was hilarious. And I was just curious as to, like how much you knew about the mythos of gin going into this role and how, like, if they gave you any kind of direction on like how to how to make that like modern and funny. Yeah, thank you. Thank you for your for your for your comments and and the question. Um, I truthfully very little about you know, a gin as as it is in in in leastern culture and and you know, like, truthfully, very little. Um. The thing that I was kind of guided towards in my initial audition was was exactly, you know, kind of that the GIN is accountant, you know, he's he's he's dry, he's, he's he's there too well to hold you know, Nandoor to account Um, and and that there was. There was very little like how how should I put this, that that all of the characters are so out of this world, like you said, and that the gin should represent something that is not not huge, right, like it's it's like not goofy, not not Um, not way out there and big, but something super dry, super like. Yeah, so I as soon as I got that, I really, you know, didn't do a lot of work into the into the mythological part of it, because of exactly what you said, because this is such a twenty one century show, you know. I I kind of wanted to represent that the best I knew, how which the image that came up for me immediately was so my my dad is from Bombay and when you when you go to Bombay and you know there are these people who are you know, if you need a radio fixed, or you need, you know, to make copies, or you need to to do whatever. You know, you have to go to these little stalls and these little boots and they kind of do it for you. And and I swear every one of these guys has been there for forty years and he's annoyed that you're there. He's a nobody has to help you. And that was just the first image that came to me, and so I think the glasses kind of came from that, because the the idea being I'm looking down doing something and you just like interrupted me in the middle of what I'm doing. Um, and then, you know, the body language and the kind of and and because of the way that that, that kind of came into its own. It necessitated all of the you know, I'm not trying to be big, but there's a lot of like I acting, there's a lot of like side glances and you know whatever, and I think that that's what makes the character so cool and it it just is kind of by accident, right. It's it's from this one image that I had and trying to stay true to what they what they asked me to do, which is which is being accountant I love that. I thought it was very effective. It's very effective because the normally are like they were originally demons who are like trapped and they can only be free when they grant fifty two wishes. But because they're bitter about being powerful and being trapped, those wishes end up like screwing over the person who had the lamp. So it was it was really, really funny to to see how you reacted in Nandor's request, like, like dude. Really I love the fact that it wasn't going to be like a magnanimous genie. You know that that it wasn't going to be like Robin Williams and a Laddin. It wasn't going to be like what...

...can I do for your friends? It was there. There's some there's some contention there, which I like. That's great. I like that. I mean I think everyone loves the get done with it, because there's a little bit of us. I think everyone just seen a little bit of themselves in that. Um Okay. And next we have a little witchen guy who, by the way, if I'm allowed to shout them out really quickly, I think I recognize from the discord is an awesome what we do in the shadows cost player. So happy to have come up here. Okay, UM, so I've seen some of the other cast members talk about how incredible the set decoration and props on set are, Um, and some of them have like picked out their favorite things that they've seen on set. Is there anything that you've kind of seen that has been like your favorite little trinket or piece of this set that just like really intrigues you? Oh, that is that's a great question. Um, Oh, I'm gonna think about that because, yeah, there there are so many. Um, I have to say I don't think I have a specific one because there there would just be way too like you, you notice something new literally every every time you're shooting a scene. So I can't I can't say like, oh, that was my favorite. What what I do enjoy is that the way that the show is shot right like it is in this document and this this documentary style, and so I love the if if you could see how many, and I hope this doesn't take anyone out out of it, but like if you could see how many people are hiding behind things just trying to do their jobs. Um, camera people, lighting people, sound like it's it is the room is full. If if there are, there are two people in there. But because you have to get this angle and and it and it has to be like a specific way. All of those props. I mean, of course, I mean they are so detailed, they are so but and and I'll just I'll give you an example, like this last episode where, Um, you know, Nandor rubs the lamp and and I show up and he wishes that Mar will will will change your mind about wanting to come along. Um, you know, we had to shoot that where I was like crouched behind, uh, one of the probably one of the tables, and then the way the camera moves, I'm literally traveling behind them so that it looks like I'm just showing up out of nowhere. And and I am so amazed by the fact that they do very little, like it's more this season, but when it comes to transitions like that, there's there's no like C G E, there's no cutting. It's just like we'll hide duck and then pop up or like So I know that I'm not answering your question, but but I I like that's the thing that impresses me about the way that this stuff is shot, as opposed to just the props, is that it's so masterfully set up as a set. Yeah, but that's awesome. Thank you so much. Great Question from a great cost flare. They do. Uh, they do uh NA cosplight, and it is top notch. Like I was not sure it wasn't a set photo at first. Oh, I want to I want to say, let me if I will send them to you at some right. Yeah, gets them too. Um, I have a little game for you to play. Okay, because I'm sure you've been asked a million times, like what would you wish if you had a gene or Egain of your own? I want to flip the script, uh and say, you know, let's put you in the position of the GIN. Uh. Someone comes up to you says this is my wish. I want to see how you would spin it. You know how you would get them. Uh. So I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna give use some wishes and I want to I want you to tell me how you would spin them back at them. Okay, we'll start simple. So the first one. The first one is I wish I was the wealthiest person in the world. Yeah, I would. I would make you wealthy and and like piles of Dogshit. That's a good one, because they specify, but current in specify currency. That's good. That works all right. I wish that the person I loved loved me back. They would love one specific feature of you that you could only demonstrate, like when you were in your weakest position. That's good. That's that's like like some weird, kinky stuff like yeah, yeah, I was gonna say I don't want to be to to but you know, no, this is what we do in the shadows. We can, we can. You know, we're fine. That is true. There was an entire episode about about Penis and argument. Yeah, exactly, which, by the way, the fact that you know, they spent so long trying to knock out of the park without you tricking them was hilarious. I mean props. Yeah, uh so, the last, the last question and perhaps the hardest. I wish for world peace. Oh Yeah, world peace. Sheez, I I guess there's some way to to UH. I mean, that's just so sad because like wouldn't it wouldn't be great. But I guess world piece. I guess...

I would give you a rock, because that's that's a piece of the world. Um, you didn't specify how spelled or what you're actually talking about. So yeah, I would, I would, I would give you a piece of of the coprust of the earth. Wow, I guess you have to write out your requests from now on. I'll take anything I can. I can get anything. We have way more fun. We'll get the next person up now. UH, party poisone, Poi Zone. Maybe Party poisone. Come on down. Um. Um, loving what the GIN this season and I'm very excited to see what other chaos that you can unleash um in the next six episodes that we've got. Um. So my question for you is, let's say, Nandor exhausted all of his whisp not. I'm sorry, Nandor still has wishes, but he has no other ideas what he should wish for. Um. So he asks the GIN. What should I wish for? So, based on, you know, the amount of time, the short amount of time that the GIN has been in the Vampire Household, what do you what would you suggest Nandor wishes for? What would I suggest Nandor wishes for? Um? You know, I would say, and I've kind of said this before, is that like there there is a point at which the GIN is takes a little bit of pity on on on him. Um, I think that I would want him to wish for his own happiness in whatever like, in whatever form that is right, like Nandor is one is so caught up in thinking that, oh, this is gonna make me happy, this is gonna make me happy, this is gonna make me happy, but it's he doesn't really take time to look at himself like that's why the character is hilarious. That's why the character is tragic, right. So, like I would want him to to be happy, you know, to to wish for his own happiness and and not have any kind of preconceived notion as to how how that occurs. Cool. Thanks, hi, I'm just on. There we go. Looks like you got your mic working. I finally got to work in. Um. So I have a short question. What's it like being the straight guy for like twelve hilarious comedians? Um, it's you know, it's the the the only thing I can say is that it's a lot easier than having to do what they do every every scene. Um. That that having been said, there is it's it's rewarding because there's such a wealth of comedy to respond to. You know, one of the things that the GIN is there to do has just responds to all of the wackiness that goes on and and like I forget it was, but you know, to be the audience is kind of Um Avatar there, and so it's it's fun, it's Hilarious, it's Um. Yeah, I mean it's it's fun more and more than anything, I gotta say, yeah, I have a part B how easy is it not react like at all as you stand there in the corner judging them so harshly? You know, one of the things that happens when you when you play a character over the course of a season is is that you find the beats with the other actors and the other characters and and I I really found myself kind of thinking like the gin more often than not. So when you know a lot of that judgment that's in the Jin's eyes, Um, and you know, after some of these requests is real like you. You know, you start you start thinking like your character, you start reacting like your characters. So, uh, it's at a certain point it just felt like we were the same person. and Uh so some of these stupid wishes. I was like, you're you know, I'm thinking to myself, you're you're an idiot. And and again, it's so easy when the actor opposite you is such a great actor too, and they play it so convincingly. Awesome. So now we have we have a few more people with their hands up. Are you good to keep going? Yeah, sure, awesome. UH, some kind of human nerd. Sounds like a Jackie Dayton I would call him. So some kind of Human Nerd is actually what Colin Robinson calls the troll that is trolling him for trolling. I don't think Jackie Daytona would identify as a nerd personally. That's that's true. That's true. Uh So my question is Um, as someone who wears glasses, when I see how the GIN wears his glasses at the very tip of his nose, all I can think is that they probably fall off all the...

...time. And I guess one of my questions is, do they actually fall off all the time, or is there some bringing holding them up there? And two, do you think that that is something that the GIN would appreciate, that it's annoying people around the world that he wears his glasses like that. Uh Man, by the way, I know exactly what we're talking I am I am a glasses where, contacts where now, but but I've been a glasses where since I was two. I have terrible so I I get that. Like when you when you see someone who's wearing their glass you know, it's the same thing like when you see someone who doesn't wear glasses a lot and they like have smudges on them, you know, and you just want to be like clean your glasses, Um, and and you want to do that little like nose thing where you just kind of like inch him back up. Um, there there's nothing keeping them in place, you know, the only way that they stayed there is that I had to take them off in between every take because they are on like about to fall the whole time and there's just nothing I can do about that because, Um, I'm not. Yeah, like I guess that's actually a good like I wouldn't want them to stay there the whole time. Like very similar to to you and I'm sure people who wear glasses that are seeing the character like it's just it feels like an itch you can't scratch to have them there. Um, so anytime we were, you know, we were in between tanks, I would take them off immediately once, once the director yelled cut. So I I commiserate with you, Um, but yeah, it's just it's just one of those things I had to I had to uh, it makes the character, so I was just happy to do that. Yeah, I think it's a really great character detail. And you know the pen thing that I think I heard you UH created that in your audition. It's really cool. Thanks so much for answering my question. Oh, thank you. Awesome, and I apologize for suggest saying that Jackie Daytona could be a nerd obvious thing. Obviously he's the coolest among us, uh, because a boy from Tucson, Arizonia. Um, okay, we have I keep thinking about the volleyball team detail of that episode. I mean that's the funniest part to me anyway. Yeah, I know, let's talk about that. I mean I'm happy to just talk about because that's my favorite episode of the show hands down. Yeah, I I think it might be mine too. Um, there's so many just weird details and then, of course, like Luke skywalkers, and it's I mean it's it's it's not. Um, yeah, it's. It's an amazing episode. It really, really is. I mean to think that you have this show with Mark Hamill on it, uh, you know, this Wacky, ridiculous comedy show, and here's Mark Cambll as this you know, Raven hair vampire, not raven hair, but you know, like the white hair vampire. Is Amazing. Yeah, okay, now we have smoked cafe. Hi, guys, as someone who come from the background of both you and you and the Cavon, like a shady street kind of thing, I'm like really flabber ghasted at the representation here because it's unlike anything I've seen and watched lately. And I noticed, obviously with caveon and the idea that the genie, when the genie concept came up, the cavan quickly Um corrected Guillermo and said, you know, it's not a genie, it's it's a gene and that it would be calling man if you think and like, way is that coming from? Is that coming from Cavan? Is that coming from Tika, like I mean, is this a country like collective contribution? Um, a great, great question, Um, and you know, don't, don't leave that Parissa fatory, who plays who plays Marwa M as well. And there there is, I mean that bit, I think was was in the script actually. So, so it Musta it must have come from from the right ears. But I think there is, there is a way in which it plays out in real time for the audience as well, because you know the fact that we do there in the states, uh, you know, primarily Um and yeah, if someone on M was was saying, I forget it was an instagram or twitter somewhere that, you know, the gin as a piece of Miss Marvel came out right right before we did and it kind of you know, kind of kind of explained that thing to people who were watching both shows. But I think it was an important bit of dialogue just so that the audience who might not be familiar with Um, you know, with with that part of the culture, kind of knew what we were talking about Um. But but I am really I'm glad that they put it in. I'm glad that the representation is there. I mean I I you know, one of the things that I love about this show and I love about the character and kind of the and and it goes. It goes everywhere, right from from wardrobe to set, to dialogue too, to everything is at like representation...

...doesn't mean like inovert like preachiness about a certain culture, right like, because at a certain point that's not like what anyone wants to see, needs to see it. It's not a documentary, it's a stupid show, right like. It's it's supposed to be stupidly funny. And but I do agree with you that any any ways in which, you know, not just not just shadows, but any show can can, can weave in a bit of story just to explain to people, like this is what we're dealing with. It's it's not and, you know, to like lead the audience on a journey, like here's the etymology of the word. I think it's fascinating. I agree with you that. I'm I'm honored that, you know, I could be a part of it in that way, but it's just it's so nice to see exactly. Yeah, like I agree with that and like thank you for being a part of it and, you know, being a great parts of it as well. And I think it's just that for me it's the idea of it's not accu it's on a daisy. Representation it's it's just done, as parts of you know, the Eavy Day, and it's like, Oh, this is us, here we go. So thank you totally, of course. Of course, thank you. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's it's a responsibility of of pop culture, of TV, of music, of anything, to to to represent the world and society and and this, this is the world. So you're telling me that the world has gin in it. So, uh well, yeah, all right. Now we have K and D. my question was basically, Um, as a one of my friends who can't make this. Um, she said she's from Toronto, and so she's asking, is there like anything you enjoyed about Toronto? Were you able to do anything fun there? Yeah, Um, I really like Toronto. Um, it's I live in New York, so it's like, uh, you know, a little, a little calmer, which is which is nice. Um, I like hugging out a lot on like Um, King West, Queen West, that that area. Um, I I love like new restaurants and food and, you know, booze and drinks and everything. So, like it was. It's a great town for that. It's it's a really nice like food town and just going out and and meeting people at, you know, bars and restaurants. Everyone is so kind and, Um, I met a lot of friends there. So it's it's really been. Yeah, it was. It was an amazing, you know, three months and of course I was there kind of on and off. I wasn't there the whole time, but yeah, those were kind of my favorite areas. I think King West and Queen West, Um, and then there was a. It was a great Um. There's a restaurant called mark or by by mark and they and they have like a no, God, I'm getting it wrong. See, this is what happens when you don't go somewhere for six months or seven months and you just forget it all. I it's. It's one of those things I like, I can see how to get in my head, but I can't remember the name of the place. Great, like Rumbar, like it's. It's amazing the things that are in Toronto that you're like we're we're in Toronto, Canada and the biggest rum selection I've ever seen in my life is at this place. UH, and it doesn't make there's like cognitive dissonance, but I really enjoyed it. Um, it's. It's. It's just a fun town. And it's and it's, uh, like I said, very similar to New York when and that, like I was just walking around and meeting people and there's so much, like there's so many different ethnicities that have enclaves, and so you get to taste so much amazing food and meet great people. So I'm very much enjoyed it. Yeah, thank you, and also just want to say you're definitely a fan favorite and, like, I think everyone is rooting for you to come back in future seasons. Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. Yeah, and it sounds like you wouldn't mind returning to Toronto, so I would love it. I would, I would love to return to Toronto. I would love to, you know again, like I said, work with my friends again on on, you know, such such a great show and and to to have this kind of support for a show is just, I mean, y'all have no idea how how lucky Um, you know, everyone associated with this thing feels that that you guys are here and engaged and watching and it's it. It feels, I mean, it feels great to to to be a part of it and then put it out in the world and to have this kind of reception. So thank you so really quickly. I got absolutely roamed by social media last week for not pressing harder on the future of the show and trying to kind of pry a little bit. I know you can't spoil anything, UM, but people want to sort of get some glimpse, and so whatever you're comfortable saying. A lot of people are theorizing that the GIN is a shipper, Um, and that he is trying to press Guillermo and Nandor together, especially with that twist wish where every time men...

...uses his penis he's gonna think of Guarmo. Now, Um, is that integtional? Are you playing him that way? Was that it? was that something you you wanted to give off, or or is that just something that the audience is reading into? Um, I think that, Um, as comfortable as you don't. Don't feel pressure. Yeah, I will, I will. I will say this that the GEARMO, when when he says that he is in a, in a good place, Um, in in you know, episode two or three, he's not lying. Um. So that is I think Garmo does feel like he's he's in a he's he's a good place. The question is, how how does how does that get messed up if it does right and and how does and how does Nandoor figure into that? Um, that's that. That's what I'll say, um of that. Yeah, I love that little twist and I think we we we heard very briefly at the beginning of this most recent episode that Garmo was on the phone with someone who who he said, I love you too. So I don't know. Man could be anything, could be his mother, I don't know. Yeah, it's and and and this will be a a season long thing, I I think. Um, you know, you see, you see so much great background, um about Garmo, and I think Harvey said this, his his family and kind of the lengths to which, you know, he feels like he wants to win and should go because he's obviously it's been, you know, slighted, but I mean they shipped him across an Engstran and I think that kind of stuff doesn't really go away overnight. Um. So, yeah, I think that that is a compelling part of this season. Got It. I think everyone's very compelled. I think that's right. We have, uh, it looks like intellectual purpose wants to come back up and ask another question. Um, hearing you talk about Guillermo. That just made me think, Um, do you think or would guiermo be able to wish himself to be, to be a vampire, or is that like not as strong a goal with him anymore? Well, I just kind of from a it's only nandor that can make the wishes. Um, Nandor rubbed the lamp. So I am I am kind of like you know that. That's that's who I'm serving. Um, I think that the GIN accepts that Guillermo is a part of the equation there. But uh no, I don't. I don't think that Guiermo could could wish for anything. Oh, that's right. UH, yeah, I wonder what could nandor wish for Guermo to be a vampire? Sure, I guess the question is if you could just do it himself as a vampire, right. Know, I mean his wishes have been really stupid, so I don't haven't put anything past them. Yeah, he could, but he wished could be a human though. I don't know. Uh, we have some more people who have questions. Got To keep it going. We have some kind of human nerd has another question. So so that question actually made me think of the fact that it's interesting that Nandor has not wished away any of the negative aspects of being a vampire. Like theoretically, it seems like the Jin's power are is unlimited. Like it's not like, oh, I can't bring people back from the dead, I can't make people fall in love. No, it's just like, no, he can do absolutely anything. And Uh, I guess this was less of a question more a remark. The it Um Nander just really has so many good things he could wish for and instead he's wishing to change a woman's hair three times. Well, I you know who who asked this question earlier. Like you know, what would the gin want and Ander to wish for? Like there there is so much, and I mean it's really the course of the show right, like there's so much that is him wanting to be happy and not knowing how to get that. So I think he's he's doing it the best that he knows how how to do with, you know, with with his uh kind of confident stupidity. And there is I mean there and to me like to to to the GIN like great, like it means I'm gonna teach you a ton. It means this is going to be very enjoyable for me to watch. Right. So, Um, but yeah, you know, he, he, he could wish for anything, I guess, but...

...it's more about you know, what someone does wish for says as much about them as it does about anything. Right. Yeah, I think that's one of my favorite aspects of the comedy is that, for most of the wishes that Jin doesn't even need tosabotage them. He just hears them and he's like, wow, that's the stupidest thing you possibly could have asked for. I'm just gonna get it to you, like, let's let's go, this is great. Yeah, I'm gonna be done with this job. It's a nine five. I'm going to be done at too, you know, totally at the rate he's asking these. All Right, Um, we have account terrible it scares me. Hopefully they're not a terrible person. Hi, hi, I wasn't on here in the beginning, so forgive me if this is already asked, but when you went into the show and just playing the Gin, what did you expect the fan response to your character to be, and how does that compare to what's happening now? Oh, I mean not not that. I mean I didn't expect anything because because it's, you know, like it's it's Um, at the beginning, you know, as an actor it's it's a it's a Gig, you know, like you're you're, you're going to and of course it's one of my favorite shows, but it's still like all right, I don't want to mess this up. Um, the the amazing part about this has been, you know, not only being in Toronto and working with that cast and and feeling like it was, you know, one of the best experiences I've had, but the responses come afterwards, which is, you know, in my wildest dreams I might have thought like Oh yeah, like everyone will love this character, this like dry just kind of like motherfucker of a character. and Um, the fact that people do is is great and I think, you know, it speaks to kind of the universality of what he's seeing and the love of the show, the love of of just the the the family that this show portrays. Um, so it's I mean it's just kind of the best possible plus minus, uh that I could have imagined. Well, yeah, everybody is loving the GIN. I love all the fan art and all the fan content. I love all the fan art like it's it's so that was the first thing I I kind of noticed where I was like, Oh man, this is Um, this is real, like this is you know, people are actually paying attention to the character, because I think as a straight character in the in the show, it is like, all right, is is it going to be interesting? So I'm I'm happy that and you know, that's again, great writing, great directing, great editing. We'll we'll do that. Um, so I'm I'm happy worked out that way. I cannot imagine looking at social media and seeing fan art of a character that you play. It's incredible. I I must imagined. It's incredible. It's incredible to see the amount of talent um out there. It's it's incredible to to, you know, feel the love and to feel that you know, people are paying attention and and and again, as an actor, that's all you can hope for is that you're you're making a worthwhile contribution, you know, Um, to something that you love. And then I've been lucky in that regard. That's awesome. That, that really is awesome. That attitude. Al Right, Marian Barry, is another question. Hi, thank you, guys. I just had a quick question that I thought of. Um, like I loved the Cameos on the show, like I loved seeing Vanessa Bayer and Danny Trejo. Like. I was just gonna ask in the previous seasons or in this season, were there any cameos from celebrities that you really liked seeing? Um, I mean I loved Mark Hamill again in in Um, the Jackie Daytona episode. That was it was just like I didn't even know it was him. Honestly, Um, I was twoday years old when I found that out. So yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Um, I mean, I'm I I love Nick Role. I think nickols hilarious. So anytime you know the whole sign and with the hat and it's just it's I think my favorite cameos are like the stupidest plot lines. Those, those tend to be my favorite cameos because I just like that kind of humor and Nick Kroll is is such a anny funny dude. Um, I wish I could have been a part of Um, you know, some of the cameos this season. I just you know, I was I was in gin land, but Um, yeah, I think I think Nick Ral is gonna be a favorite. Mark Camill's gotta be a favorite. Do you have anyone that you would have liked a cameo? And he dreamed Cameos for the grown? Well, I guess I would have to be in it first, right, like yes, as a fan or yes, right, as as as a fan. I maybe I can answer that more. Uh, you know, staying on the Nick Kral train, I mean I think John Laney would be a pretty funny vampire or the two of them doing there. You know they're well, he's already a character, but somehow having those two old men that they that they play as. Yes, just too much tuna, as God. Yeah, I absolutely love, Love, love love that netflix special. So that that was a good full. It's so good. It's so good I cannot imagine too much tuna on what we do in the shadows thing. We'll leave ourselves with that image.

Um, for today I have been matthew. He has been a noop. Uh. Do you have any anything you'd like to leave other than too much tune? Anything you'd like to leave our lovely audience? I again, I just I really, from the bottom of my heart, want I want to thank you, guys, and want to thank all of the fans, Um, who who watched the show, who who give you know, my character is so much love and so much life, Um, outside of the show and it. I can't tell you how much it means to me. Um, I know everyone else in the cast feels the same way. So thank you, guys, for for being a part of this and for caring and loving and, um again, giving the show the life that it has. Well, thank you so much for me and from from all of the fans of the show. Thank you for coming out and thank you for for playing such a wonderful character. Like I said, it's it's been my pleasure all right. So I will see everyone back here next week, same time, same annal, with hopefully Harvey back on UH. So don't miss out. Good bye everyone, bye. E. Then it's so whelming. Hot bizar has to tell me. Why would anyone want to be live behind the shadows as a production of Straw hut media, hosted by Harvey Gem, produced by Ryan Tillotson, Amada Sanchez and Tyler Nielsen, original music by Trevor Bumgar and Chris Hendricks, vocals by Maggie Glass, and tune in live every Thursday at one pm Pacific on the what we do in the shadows subreddit for an a m a with Harvey and special guests.

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